NL200...KK facing 5bet pf....deep stacks

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Villain is 28/22 over only 150 hands. From what i've seen at the table he has been 3betting/squeezing light and he 3bet my button raise with ATo earlier.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $145.80
BB: $200
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $448.10</font>
MP: $469.20
CO: $253.05
BTN: $197

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $24</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $200</font>



I know everyone is going to say its KK pf and I should just shove, esp. given my reads....but I don't think my reads should rly come into that much consideration here. Is this hand really a simple shove?

[TheDivineRod]

Well at this point its either fold or shove. Its deep so its a tough call. Honestly I might fold this if ive never seen him 5 bet before.

[Beanos]

Unless he is inside ur head and knows that you know that he has been 3-betting lightly so you would 4-bet lightly, then he has got to have AA or KK. I know you've got KK but with these stacks I can't see him getting it in with less. You've invested less than 20% of your stack and i'd rather me bluffed off that ocassionally than risk the other 80% and see AA most of the time.

[Trader_Joe]

I don't play NL200. However, with this deep, if I were the villian I would probably cold call your preflop 4th bet and try to get you in on the flop with position. Any thoughts?

[Unknown Soldier]

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3betting/squeezing light

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given this read probably a push

[Roger Mainfield]

People who 3-bet light rarely 4-bet light, they know they will get looked up more than other opponents

[LuckyKid]

i'll just shove this given the read..

[MorningAfter]

villain was me, nice suck out sir : )

[shpanko]

Let's look at his 5-bet size, from $80 he made it $200 to go. Doesn't that seem kind of small? It's like he doesn't want us to get away from our hand. If you have a good image then I can't see him 5-betting this amount with anything less than AA. I think KK just calls the 4-bet, AK he probably calls the 4-bet, folds, or shoves.

I can't believe I'm saying it but I think this is a fold

[MorningAfter]

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Let's look at his 5-bet size, from $80 he made it $200 to go. Doesn't that seem kind of small? It's like he doesn't want us to get away from our hand. If you have a good image then I can't see him 5-betting this amount with anything less than AA. I think KK just calls the 4-bet, AK he probably calls the 4-bet, folds, or shoves.

I can't believe I'm saying it but I think this is a fold

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Actually I made it small to give some illusion of fold equity preflop, like I could fold to a push - add in some waiting and it usually works : )