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Old 04-30-2007, 09:48 PM
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I have ~400 hands on villain playing about 35/21 . Plays good, but then PURE spewage sometimes. We were playing on two diff tables then this hand comes up
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($124)
MP ($104.10)
CO ($98.05)
Hero ($98)
SB ($164.60)
BB ($26.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $11.

Flop: ($35.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $89.1</font>, Hero calls $65 (All-In).

Turn: ($207.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($207.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $207.60

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP has Tc 7c (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $201.50. MP wins $6.09. </font>


Several hands later on the other table, AGAIN he just SHOVES the paired flop after I show big strength pf. My question here is, had I held an overpair instead of AK, do I call again? What about AJ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($101.80)
BB ($79.95)
UTG ($55.45)
MP ($95.85)
CO ($92.55)
Button ($120.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $9.

Flop: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $107.35</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $149.35



*edited to include results from first hand
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:49 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: wtf?

Decision in the second one depends a lot on the results of the first hand. In the first hand I'd snap call, the second hand I'm usually folding. But like I said it depends on what he held in the first hand
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:51 PM
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oh wow didn't even realize I didn't post results h/o
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:00 PM
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1.)have you seen him play trips?
2.)would he do this with a J or 1010?
3.)would he do this with QQ-AA?

you have great equity versus 88 or lower and random crap, but the question really is how the villain plays his big hands? with this much history you should have an idea
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:14 PM
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that's the thing to be completely honest I have no idea with this guy. I do have a nice collection of hands with him, he gets hella spewy but I would never discount the possibility he would do this with a 9, but I do think a good J just might be in his range too
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:17 PM
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well if your read isn't solid, then you should dump it
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:45 PM
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I doubt he's bluffing the second time.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:05 AM
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and even if he might be bluffing the 2nd hand, you're still behind lots of his bluffing range. super easy fold
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:14 AM
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Half pot bet+ call push looks fine in hand 1.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:58 AM
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You're going to need more than just the first hand to call the second. Also, 1/2 pot bet against a laggro? That's showing a lot of weakness to someone who you know is willing to attack. The board sucks for you though, so I find it to be an easy fold.
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