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04-29-2007, 11:20 AM
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Q8s BB
UTG in this hand is just a typical bad loose passive old guy.
CO gets his own paragraph because he's a little strange. He's this old guy who plays very strangely and all out of sorts. Every hand that gets shown down, whether he's in the hand or not, he takes out a notepad and writes down what hand won the pot. He has different pages for different hands like flush, straight, trips, etc. He's been raising a decent amount preflop this session and mixing in all sorts of weird bluffs at the wrong times, like randomly donking the turn after check calling the flop and a total brick hits. Ok so the hand: We're like 6 or 7 handed, UTG limps, CO raises, I call in BB with Q8dd, limper calls. Flop is Kd7d3c. I bet because I've been donking all sorts of hands this session and typically just annoying people. UTG calls, CO calls. Turn is 6s. I check, UTG checks, CO bets, I raise, UTG calls, CO folds. River is 2d. I bet, UTG raises, I call. Comments on all streets appreciated. Edit/ It may be important to note that I planned on betting all rivers once UTG called. 
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#4
04-29-2007, 11:49 AM
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Re: Q8s BB
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Ok so the hand: We're like 6 or 7 handed, UTG limps, CO raises, I call in BB with Q8dd, limper calls. Flop is Kd7d3c. I bet because I've been donking all sorts of hands this session and typically just annoying people. UTG calls, CO calls. [/ QUOTE ] Bet on the flop was not such a good move. You don't need me to tell you that the reason you give for betting is not sound poker logic. You're only getting 2-1 odds on your flop bet, which isn't good enough to bet a flush draw for value. You're not going to buy yourself a free card when acting first, and you might get raised. And if your opponents are such weak players, you don't gain any value by mixing up your play. So just check and call. All your other plays look fine.
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#5
04-29-2007, 11:55 AM
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Re: Q8s BB
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[ QUOTE ] Ok so the hand: We're like 6 or 7 handed, UTG limps, CO raises, I call in BB with Q8dd, limper calls. Flop is Kd7d3c. I bet because I've been donking all sorts of hands this session and typically just annoying people. UTG calls, CO calls. [/ QUOTE ] Bet on the flop was not such a good move. You don't need me to tell you that the reason you give for betting is not sound poker logic. You're only getting 2-1 odds on your flop bet, which isn't good enough to bet a flush draw for value. You're not going to buy yourself a free card when acting first, and you might get raised. And if your opponents are such weak players, you don't gain any value by mixing up your play. So just check and call. All your other plays look fine. [/ QUOTE ] But I have a lot of bluff equity on this flop. On a board as broken as this where I hold the only draw, I'm putting in some sort of action whether it be check-raising or betting out. It's way too easy for this flop to completely miss both of my opponents.
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#6
04-29-2007, 12:00 PM
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Re: Q8s BB
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ok so the hand: We're like 6 or 7 handed, UTG limps, CO raises, I call in BB with Q8dd, limper calls. Flop is Kd7d3c. I bet because I've been donking all sorts of hands this session and typically just annoying people. UTG calls, CO calls. [/ QUOTE ] Bet on the flop was not such a good move. You don't need me to tell you that the reason you give for betting is not sound poker logic. You're only getting 2-1 odds on your flop bet, which isn't good enough to bet a flush draw for value. You're not going to buy yourself a free card when acting first, and you might get raised. And if your opponents are such weak players, you don't gain any value by mixing up your play. So just check and call. All your other plays look fine. [/ QUOTE ] But I have a lot of bluff equity on this flop. On a board as broken as this where I hold the only draw, I'm putting in some sort of action whether it be check-raising or betting out. It's way too easy for this flop to completely miss both of my opponents. [/ QUOTE ] i agree, so i'd c/r and give the guy in the middle more incetive to get lost.
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#7
04-29-2007, 01:33 PM
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Re: Q8s BB
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ok so the hand: We're like 6 or 7 handed, UTG limps, CO raises, I call in BB with Q8dd, limper calls. Flop is Kd7d3c. I bet because I've been donking all sorts of hands this session and typically just annoying people. UTG calls, CO calls. [/ QUOTE ] Bet on the flop was not such a good move. You don't need me to tell you that the reason you give for betting is not sound poker logic... [/ QUOTE ] But I have a lot of bluff equity on this flop. On a board as broken as this where I hold the only draw, I'm putting in some sort of action whether it be check-raising or betting out. It's way too easy for this flop to completely miss both of my opponents. [/ QUOTE ] At reasoning like this, all I can do is roll my antennae.
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#8
04-29-2007, 01:56 PM
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Re: Q8s BB
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CO gets his own paragraph because he's a little strange. He's this old guy who plays very strangely and all out of sorts. Every hand that gets shown down, whether he's in the hand or not, he takes out a notepad and writes down what hand won the pot. He has different pages for different hands like flush, straight, trips, etc. He's been raising a decent amount preflop this session and mixing in all sorts of weird bluffs at the wrong times, like randomly donking the turn after check calling the flop and a total brick hits. [/ QUOTE ] wow i can now see where this guy is coming from cause EXACTLY every 10th hand youre gonna hit a flush not the 9th or the 11th and certainly not the 7th for thats when youll hit a straight tell him to keep up the good work that trend analysis will come in real handy lol im never suprised by some of the bizarre antics of live players they never cease to amaze me anyways onto the hand.... c/r CO on flop this river brings up a good live situation 3bet river he can easily have a worse flush often here wide open limping range any two soooted cards the way you describe this opponent he seems like your typical old nit a lot of times theyll doublecheck their cards as if asking themselves how can he be raising me? i thought i had the nuts wait let me see... i do! i can raise again! now you can fold to a 4th bet
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#10
04-29-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: Q8s BB
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ok so the hand: We're like 6 or 7 handed, UTG limps, CO raises, I call in BB with Q8dd, limper calls. Flop is Kd7d3c. I bet because I've been donking all sorts of hands this session and typically just annoying people. UTG calls, CO calls. [/ QUOTE ] Bet on the flop was not such a good move. You don't need me to tell you that the reason you give for betting is not sound poker logic... [/ QUOTE ] But I have a lot of bluff equity on this flop. On a board as broken as this where I hold the only draw, I'm putting in some sort of action whether it be check-raising or betting out. It's way too easy for this flop to completely miss both of my opponents. [/ QUOTE ] At reasoning like this, all I can do is roll my antennae. [/ QUOTE ] Wtf are you talking about?
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