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View Poll Results: Who will win the NL Wildcard
Cinci/St. Louis (lead/3.5 ahead) 34 73.91%
Arizona (2.5 behind) 2 4.35%
SF (4.0 behind) 1 2.17%
Other (7 teams between 5.5 and 6.5 behind) 9 19.57%
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Old 04-29-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default anyone like a river call here?

Villain is ragnUts20, for those of you who don't know him, hes ~30/20 good lag.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($831.54)
SB ($455.10)
BB ($363.52)
UTG ($420.80)
MP ($394)
Hero ($778.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, Button calls $14, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, Button calls $24.

Turn: ($82) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, Button calls $60.

River: ($202) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $180</font>, Hero..


anyone think its +g moolah to call here?
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Old 04-29-2007, 10:28 AM
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Old 04-29-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: anyone like a river call here?

Fold it, I think this is a T or 55 too often trying to get good pay from a pair. Imo players like this often play FDs more aggressive on boards like this which skews it towards nutty hands, so I don't think our hand is good often enough.
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: anyone like a river call here?

No. If he is good he probably won't call the turn bet with a draw. Unless he is samoleus [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: anyone like a river call here?

I think hes very capable of calling the turn with most if not all of the flush draws he could have here, as he can bluff any offsuit AKQT river and possibly make money on a river [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] because it would be hard for me to give him credit for the fd.

I'm probably thinking too much into this, but I thought I'd pst it anyway.
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: anyone like a river call here?

Are you more likely to call a bet on a heart river than you are on an A river? That doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense to me. I would really not try to bluff if I was villain, the river fell an offsuit A and you checked to me.
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: anyone like a river call here?

What was the your goal with the turn bet?
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: anyone like a river call here?

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Are you more likely to call a bet on a heart river than you are on an A river? That doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense to me. I would really not try to bluff if I was villain, the river fell an offsuit A and you checked to me.

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When you consider his perception of what I think his range is, he thinks I think he could end up here with twopair, trips, higher pair, and generally be capable of giving up on 'scary' river, but if the 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] falls, I'm not going to able to give him credit for the flush for the exact same reasons you stated..

Does that make any sense?
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:17 PM
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What was the your goal with the turn bet?

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Gain value from/make him fold flush draws, do you check/fold here?
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: anyone like a river call here?

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What was the your goal with the turn bet?

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Gain value from/make him fold flush draws, do you check/fold here?

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I don't know most of the time I check fold sometimes check call because cf feels week. If I thought he'd bet a t there I'm more inclined to fold.
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