$11+1 FT A9s bubble, call raise?

[SayGN]

I've been multi-tabling, so no real reads on villain...going on the assumption that he is probably raising a wide range of hands in this situation based on stack sizes. Right or Wrong?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t8370
Button: t1650
SB: t1830
Hero: t1650

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t600</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1650</font>, UTG calls t1050 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2400)</font>.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t3450, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t3450)


Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t3450, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t3450)


River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t3450, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t3450)


Results:
Final pot: t3450

[Little John]

It really stinks, but folding and pushing when one of the shorter stacks is in the BB is probably a better play.

[allaboutheu]

You are correct in stating that he probably has a very wide range or raising hands right here however I think your shoving is incorrect. He could theoretically be raising any 2 here and thats not even that bad of a play. If you shove he is going to call w/ any 2 strictly based on pot odds. A9 is a favorite against a random hand but its a much better idea to just fold here and then abuse the shorties when they are in the blinds if the bubble hasnt burst yet or you don't pick something up.

[Jago]

I dont like the push either

[mmorpg]

I think you need to fold against he big stack here, but call anyone else

[Kazimyrch]

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I think you need to fold against he big stack here, but call anyone else

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I don't get this. The big stack is raising wider than the other two. So imo if you want to call one, it has to be the big stack.

[Velocity]

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I think you need to fold against he big stack here, but call anyone else

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I don't get this. The big stack is raising wider than the other two. So imo if you want to call one, it has to be the big stack.

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the logic behind it is that when the chips go to the big stack they are worth less (and in turn hero's are worth more) than if the chips went to one of the similar sized shorter stacks. idk if this makes up for the difference in ranges or not, but...whatever