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Old 04-28-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default I think I like a push here, but I\'m a little rusty and bad at poker

Title says it all.

If I can get HU with shorty I think I have to equity to do this.

Stars $100, no reads


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP1 (t5110)
MP2 (t1355)
MP3 (t6550)
CO (t3555)
Button (t776)
SB (t4240)
Hero (t2025)
UTG (t3900)
UTG+1 (t7750)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t776</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>

Hero?

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Woodguy
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: I think I like a push here, but I\'m a little rusty and bad at poker

That's hard to judge readless. I doubt I'm folding anything I was raising in EP if I'm OR but then again, I'm not minraising anything there either so who knows? I'm raising anything I'm calling if I'm big stack, unless I'm fully loaded, given OR's stack. So who knows? If I'm button, I'm going in a reasonably wide range there - anything that looks like it will play well multiway, so who knows. As for you, pushing is +EV, I would imagine, because no one else's range need be that narrow and some folding will occur.
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: I think I like a push here, but I\'m a little rusty and bad at poker

I would fold and let MP3 or MP1 call him since they are already in this pot and are calling the short stack.
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: I think I like a push here, but I\'m a little rusty and bad at poker

It's not an STT. Why would you want to let someone else to call him? Folding may be correct but that's not the reason why. Folding is correct if pushing does not have a positive expected value. Sometimes, we will get called by AA, and AK and AQ come along too and we are stuffed but sometimes we get two folds and button has a hand we're flipping with or even dominate. And there are lots of other possibilities in between. It's not that unlikely that we can get two calls from mid pairs and double up just from the sidepot.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: I think I like a push here, but I\'m a little rusty and bad at poke

Fold. I just think that AK/AQ are too likely and that there is no chance that either hand is getting folded against our relatively small shove.

MP3 is also pot committed to a call with any 2 in his pf calling rangebut without reads I don't know if we can assume he realizes this (although it is a $100 so the avg unknown will be calling in his shoes more than the avg $30 player).
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: I think I like a push here, but I\'m a little rusty and bad at poke

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there is no chance that either hand is getting folded against our relatively small shove.


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They will have 2-1 but its still significant in terms of absolute chip value, at least to MP3, and the PFR has to have a monster to call after a call, 3bet shortie push and a push behind.
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: I think I like a push here, but I\'m a little rusty and bad at poke

i like it if blinds were 50/100

dont [censored] around with expecting people who minraise to fold
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:49 AM
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i like it if blinds were 50/100

dont [censored] around with expecting people who minraise to fold

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The great thing is about minraisers is that they call with KJs. I think it's true that they rarely fold but monsters are not all, or even a majority, of their range.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:04 AM
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i like it if blinds were 50/100

dont [censored] around with expecting people who minraise to fold

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The great thing is about minraisers is that they call with KJs. I think it's true that they rarely fold but monsters are not all, or even a majority, of their range.

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we've got like 40% equity when called, and we're getting called like all the time
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:31 AM
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Default Re: I think I like a push here, but I\'m a little rusty and bad at poke

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i like it if blinds were 50/100

dont [censored] around with expecting people who minraise to fold

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The great thing is about minraisers is that they call with KJs. I think it's true that they rarely fold but monsters are not all, or even a majority, of their range.

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we've got like 40% equity when called, and we're getting called like all the time

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wtf no we aren't
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