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Old 04-27-2007, 05:19 AM
23act 23act is offline
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Default AT - interesting dynamic and hand

Villian is 36/21/1.15 and not a very good player.

I originally bluffed off a stack to him by shoving a dangerous river and he called with AA. I then stacked him like 5 hands later by shoving a draw on the flop.

Since then i have owned him - getting 2 streets of value on like 722T boards with A7, he has been trying to play back to my button raises but ive handled it v well by occasionally 4betting and calling and raising cbets.

basically i think he is frustrated and is about to try something dumb.

He ran the timer down on the turn and instbet the river...

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $655.50
BB: $886.40
UTG: $574.55
MP: $1018.85
CO: $620.45
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $1665.65</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, SB folds, BB calls $18

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($51) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $48</font>, BB calls $48

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($147) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $126</font>, BB calls $126

<font color="black">River:</font> ($399) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $294</font>

Pot Size: $693
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:49 AM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

it's ugly and I've been getting myself in alot of trouble here recently by calling.... I think it's a reluctant fold even though I hate it
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Old 04-27-2007, 05:57 AM
oyvindgee oyvindgee is offline
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

No way calling here is good.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:05 AM
FionnMac FionnMac is offline
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

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it's ugly and I've been getting myself in alot of trouble here recently by calling.... I think it's a reluctant fold even though I hate it

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don't see how this is 'reluctant', the guy is loose so could easily call down 2 streets with a club, not like he even needs pair and a draw or w/e, and he has a low aggression factor. Unless you have a sick read, this is a pretty easy fold.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

is checking turn bad?
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

if there is a negligible chance that ur going to get c/r off the best hand i think betting the turn is best:

- he has called 2 biggish barrels with less than tp before
- fd is out, where he chases or not i think u need to get a bet in
- i can b/f very comfortably vs this villian
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:36 AM
tufat23 tufat23 is offline
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

obv u folded from the pot size line on the end, were u considering a shove?
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

vs someone w/ a brain shoving is an option.

not vs this dude tho - he will insta call with Jc+ and i can see him calling the turn with Kc really often

i did fold but it felt awkward given the history etc
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

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is checking turn bad?

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Def not. I check the turn a lot here without a good read.
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:47 AM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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Default Re: AT - interesting dynamic and hand

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it's ugly and I've been getting myself in alot of trouble here recently by calling.... I think it's a reluctant fold even though I hate it

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don't see how this is 'reluctant', the guy is loose so could easily call down 2 streets with a club, not like he even needs pair and a draw or w/e, and he has a low aggression factor. Unless you have a sick read, this is a pretty easy fold.

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It's reluctant b/c no hand really makes any sense... is he calling w/ his Q high FD and then open shoving into a possible K high? etc, etc. Had it not been the Ac on the river we'd have a much easier fold, but now we know he wasn't on the NFD, so what does he have?
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