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Old 04-26-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default $25: Low PP vs active opponent

Villans been raising a fair bit, seems to be positionally aware.

Havent seen him showdown any junk, but he's Cbet and chk/folded turn a few times.

Hes around 24/18/2.5 but only got 90 hands


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($25.45)</font>
CO ($9.45)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($23.50)</font>
SB ($30.25)
BB ($27.25)
UTG ($4)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villan raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villan bets $1.8</font>, <font color="blue">Hero calls $1.80.</font>

Turn: ($5.95) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villan bets $4</font>, <font color="blue">Hero calls $4.</font>

River: ($13.95) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villan bets $10</font>, <font color="blue"> Hero calls </font>

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Old 04-26-2007, 09:30 AM
Jim14Qc Jim14Qc is offline
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

i don't lkike the river call, tbh. I don't see him betting that river w/o at least JJ, probably somethink like AK/KQ is more likely though, unless he's been 3-barrelling a lot (which noone does at NL25 for sure).

A call on the turn seems alright.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

I would call the flop/turn and then fold the river. You say that he has been cbetting and then c/f'ing the turn quite a bit which indicates that he probably isn't 3rd barreling you. There aren't really any draws out there that he could have, so I can't see him playing a hand worse than 4s like this. AK/KQ or something seems pretty likely.


Btw I thought you played SSNL??
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:37 AM
NHBuddy NHBuddy is offline
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

The only thing you beat is a bluff on the river. By playing it this way, you let him be in the control for the entire hard(catch overcards with no resistance), and you have absolutely no idea where you stand.

IF you're just going to call down like this it would be much better to raise the flop, and go from there.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:38 AM
juggler97531 juggler97531 is offline
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

"but he's Cbet and chk/folded turn a few times. "
given this read i don't like your line. It means that he tries cbets, but shuts up if it doesn't work. If it is true than his bet/bet/bet suggest that your pair of 4s is never good here.
I think you have to fold here.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:39 AM
doppelganger doppelganger is offline
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

You're only good on the river if he'll 3 barrel it with a whiffed AQ/A6. Given his stats and your read, I'm thinking not.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:40 AM
barryc83 barryc83 is offline
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

Im folding the river. Hes taking you to valuetown. I like the turn call bc you have 10 outs and thats a good double barrel card, but I just dont see many 3 barreling at 50nl.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:47 AM
Rafpig Rafpig is offline
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

River call is very bad IMO. Your line looks fine, but fold the river. Other option is to raise the flop, taking control of the hand. I would guess he had AK...
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

Just a quick thought:

Assuming you have 8 outs on the turn (4 6s, 4 As, i've ignored the 4s). You are 8 : 38 or 1 : 4.75 to make your hand.

You have to call $4 so you need to win $19 in total to make this 0EV. There is already $9.95 in the pot so you need to win $10 on the river.

Do you think that villain will pay you off that much on average when there is 4 to a straight on the board? You having a 4 is fairly unlikely but its just something to consider when deciding whether to call the turn.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: $25: Low PP vs active opponent

Jim140c
Do you think villan should bet river if he has JJ, if so why and if not why not.
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Sweir Yeah i played NL$100, cashed out so quickly running up the stakes to get home to the NL$100 and $200 games.
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NHBuddy - What does raising the flop achieve?
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