folding a straight - hand advice

[forhasta]

Could anyone give me advice on whether a good fold? No reads on the player who put in the big river bet - he didnt seem to be a maniac or anything, fairly solid i reckon:


Full Tilt Poker Game #2281932920: Table Theseas (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:33:30 ET - 2007/04/24
Seat 1: TurtleNov86 ($48.30)
Seat 2: bradjmx4 ($15.90)
Seat 3: gigarjon ($55.15)
Seat 4: jamarge ($20)
Seat 5: OreoBoy12 ($22.80)
Seat 6: HERO ($67.20)
HERO posts the small blind of $0.25
TurtleNov86 posts the big blind of $0.50
jamarge posts $0.50
The button is in seat #5


*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
bradjmx4 calls $0.50
gigarjon folds
jamarge checks
OreoBoy12 folds
HERO calls $0.25
TurtleNov86 checks


*** FLOP *** [8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
HERO checks
TurtleNov86 checks
bradjmx4 bets $0.50
jamarge calls $0.50
HERO calls $0.50
TurtleNov86 calls $0.50


*** TURN *** [8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
HERO checks
TurtleNov86 checks
bradjmx4 bets $1.50
jamarge folds
HERO raises to $4
TurtleNov86 calls $4
bradjmx4 folds



*** RIVER *** [8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
HERO checks
TurtleNov86 bets $17.25
HERO folds
Uncalled bet of $17.25 returned to TurtleNov86
TurtleNov86 mucks
TurtleNov86 wins the pot ($12.85)


thanks guys

[cs3]

PF and Flop are meh

turn - either lead for pot or ch/r way bigger

river - bet pot. since you didnt, at least call. this is a villain wiht 2 pr really often and sometimes a set. only rarely are you beat by a flush or KJ
betting > ch/call > ch/raise >>>>> ch/fold

[AnyMouse]

You should possibly be posting this in uNL instead of here in SSNL.

Why did you check the river? Given play leading up to that point, you're way ahead of villain's range. Therefore you should be betting to extract value.

[Sciolist]

Preflop looks fine to me.

Flop I can live with, you are getting 6:1 or whatever.

Turn you are betting too little. The pot is $5.25 and you are making it $2.50 more. I'd rather raise to $7 or so.

River, you are either going to bet for value, or check/raise for value. The latter line makes little sense because you have no reason to think he'll bet here. So, I would bet 2/3 pot and call a push.

[DanJ.]

i just fold the flop,

but as played i think u should be betting the river, if he pushed id probably call just because its $50nl.

[JPeezy55]

Yeah, I think you really have to discount the backdoor flush here, which means that KJ beats you and nothing else.

17.25 to win 17.25 + 12.85 ~30, I'm calling the river.