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Old 04-25-2007, 09:10 AM
22pajo 22pajo is offline
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Default AQs - Capping Preflop

I was having a chat with a fellow 2+2'er today about the wiseom (or otherwise) of capping AQs in the following situation:

Limit: 1/2

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls.

My Thoughs:
BB is loose agro while CO and BTN are loose passive

I ran a poker stove simulation against 3 players that raised 10, 12 &amp; 14% of their hands preflop and it gave me a 27% chance of winning.
Mathematically this makes it +EV to cap.

Am i wide of the mark with this analysis?
Is there something i have not considered with this hand?

I should point out that the game had been tightish up until now but that i had only been at the table for about 30 hands or so.
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Old 04-25-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: AQs - Capping Preflop

Based on your read that BB is "loose aggressive" (and that he is not just LAG in position, but OOP as well), and CO and BTN have a wide range, capping here is good with AJs+, KQs, TT+, AK, AQ. Maybe some other suited big cards as well but I think your capping range obv depends on the range that BB will 3-bet.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: AQs - Capping Preflop

I think it's a great, almost have-to play with at least 3 other players. There are just too many ways to win a really huge pot with a hand like this in a loose game.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:31 AM
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There are just too many ways to win a really huge pot with a hand like this in a loose game.

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Game had been tight before this. this was one of the more loose hands i'd seen so far
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: AQs - Capping Preflop

I think this is a perfect situation to cap for value with this hand. Your hand is probably good against the other aggressor and is certainly good against the two passives.

AQs can sometimes be capped but not often.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: AQs - Capping Preflop

I'm wondering......is it still +EV to cap when LAG has 3-bet from the BB?

A LAG's 3-betting range is often very close to a TAG's. I think its usually his raising/cold-calling range that's wider.

Having said that, I like the cap IF BB is an observant thinking player and noticed you open-raised from the HJ. It also gets CO, BTN to either fold, or commit more money to the pot when they're behind.

I'd definitely cap AKo in this situation, so I guess you're not far off.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: AQs - Capping Preflop

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I ran a poker stove simulation against 3 players that raised 10, 12 &amp; 14% of their hands preflop

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Just out of curiosity, how did you run the stove using raising ranges?

Also, if a loose player is raising btwn 10-14% of his hands, wouldn't that make him a pf LAG?
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:08 PM
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how did you run the stove using raising ranges?

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By entering the % in the preflop tab of the tool

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Also, if a loose player is raising btwn 10-14% of his hands, wouldn't that make him a pf LAG?

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Preflop yes it would.
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: AQs - Capping Preflop

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how did you run the stove using raising ranges?

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By entering the % in the preflop tab of the tool

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Also, if a loose player is raising btwn 10-14% of his hands, wouldn't that make him a pf LAG?

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Preflop yes it would.

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I think entering the % in the pf tab gives you hand playing ranges, and not raising ranges...

Also, considering pf raising %, I think pf you were up against 3 LAGs (stats wise), as opposed to 2 Loose Passives, and 1 LAG...probably doesn't change the outcome of your pf decision too much though.
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Old 04-25-2007, 05:35 PM
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I'm wondering......is it still +EV to cap when LAG has 3-bet from the BB?

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Anyone know how to figure this out?
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