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Old 04-25-2007, 06:27 AM
disko disko is offline
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Default do i call this all in with ak suited....

2 questions - how do you like it preflop? do you call the all in?


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 ($98.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($91.09)</font>
CO ($91.92)
Button ($22.50)
SB ($28.46)
BB ($104)
UTG ($56.90)
UTG+1 ($100)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($93.92)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($41.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 bets $73.92 (All-In), Hero???
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

reraise is too small

I'd call the flop
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:37 AM
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

his reraise is too small? or mine?
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:42 AM
Ron Burgundy Ron Burgundy is offline
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

Reraise a little more, like to $12-14. I like calling the 4bet in position.

He has an overpair and doesn't want to have to make a decision if an 8, T, or club comes.

I don't think QQ is making that small of a 4bet pf oop. He's milking you with AA, possibly KK.

Reads would help, BTW.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

PF I reraise to 13-15 instead of 10.

I think I have to call the push, but it's pretty close. 1.5:1 with a pretty much even shot at either 9 (AA - 37%) or 12 (KK - 47%) outs is good enough for me. Anytime it's close like that, I go ahead and make the call because it's relatively equal EV either way, but showing down the hand can help your table image.
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

3bet to $12.

I think you call the shove, yes, it's kind of hard to think of a hand range that has you so crushed you cannot call ({AA,JJ} comes to mind, but that's just unrealistic).

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.576% 42.12% 00.45% 2502 27.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 57.424% 56.97% 00.45% 3384 27.00 { KK+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.788% 38.67% 19.12% 5742 2839.50 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 42.212% 23.09% 19.12% 3429 2839.50 { KK+, AKs, AKo }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.449% 40.44% 12.01% 9609 2853.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 47.551% 35.54% 12.01% 8445 2853.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

Definitely make it 13 or 14$ pf then go ahead and call the flop also. As the others have said your ev here is pretty close either way.
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

i called.

he showed qq, i didnt hit and i lost.

correct call?
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

[ QUOTE ]
i called.

he showed qq, i didnt hit and i lost.

correct call?

[/ QUOTE ]

if you know he has QQ you want as much as possible going in on the flop
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:30 PM
Das Budrick Das Budrick is offline
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Default Re: do i call this all in with ak suited....

[ QUOTE ]
i called.

he showed qq, i didnt hit and i lost.

correct call?

[/ QUOTE ]

Try not to think through it like this. Just because a guy that made this play had QQ this time does not mean he will always have it. Don't be results oriented; instead, put him on a range of hands and decide if you are ahead of that range.
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