KQ in BB in blind battle with ace high flop vs. tag

[CarpeDiem]

So blind v blind I call his p/f raise and muck after the a 6 3 flop. Is this standard or uber-weak?

[Oink]

He has a HUGE range. A lot of TAGs open raise as much as 50%-60% in the SB.

I 3-bet preflop almost always here.

As played: If he is straight forward you can raise the flop to fold out worse hands. I guess floating the flop and then bet the turn if he checks, or go to SD if you hit, is an option as well.
EDIT: Floating cant be good unless you have a read that he gives up on 2nd barrels. On this board he should really 2nd barrel bluff, so when he checks turn he is prolly looking for a SD.

Since you didnt 3-bet preflop I really dont know what is best on that flop. But you are folding the best hand a lot. So yeah, weak IMO!

[murmeltier21]

i would 3-bet preflop and lead the flop. if he raises 3-bet flop. like oink said a tag has a huge range here. if he caps the flop i guess you can fold the turn UI.

[mvoss]

I 3-bet preflop, you have an equity edge over his hands and you have position, after that the hand plays differently.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

3bet preflop every time here. Whats ironic is if you had AK, the best play is not that clear preflop cuz against many opponents you can make a lot of money postflop by taking an unconventional preflop line of just calling. Slowplaying a hand like KQ is just going to create confusing situations that will be very difficult to navigate. So although AK is a much better hand than KQ, you should end up playing a hand like KQ faster/stronger than AK over many trials. There shouldnt be a huge difference between how you play these hands in this spot since most of the time you'll be 3betting both, but there should be something noticeable/discernable becuz I can think of a reason to call with AK in this spot, I cant think of a valid reason to call with KQ here.

Given that you just called preflop. I think you should just call the flop and fold the turn UI against most tags becuz if you call that specific flop most tags will simply give up and check/fold the turn when you have the best hand. However if youre against a tag who will sometimes bet the turn with hands that you have beat, it may be best to raise the flop just to add clarity to your sitution. If the tag calls your flop raise, I would usually give up on the hand.

[Bruce D]

Everyone seems to advocate a 3 bet on the flop. Why do we not prefer a 3 bet preflop and take control of the hand?

[TheWunderkind]

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this is exactlly what everyone is saying [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[CarpeDiem]

Wow!

Good stuff. H/U plays are sooo hard and I appreciate your general impressions. Thanks for the long reply ilove...929--you often give sage advice to lurkers like me.

[Bruce D]

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Why do we not prefer a 3 bet preflop and take control of the hand?

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omg.. i totally read every response.. and saw "3 bet the flop"..

My replies to posts have been horrible... I was going to say as of late, but they alway have been, but especially of late.

edit: which made no sense as one could only raise, not 3 bet the flop as played.