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Old 04-23-2007, 11:04 PM
TheWorm967 TheWorm967 is offline
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Default Can someone review this hand for me?

Allright this is a home game STT and there are five players. The buy in was 50 bucks and everyone got 2000 in chips. It's the first hand of the game, blinds are 10/20 and I am dealt:

8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the BB

UTG raises 20 and 4 call (Pot:200)

flop comes:4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

It checks around to me and I bet 300

UTG folds, Villian calls, and everyone folds (pot:500)

Turn comes: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet 300, Villian raises to 600, I call (pot:1400)

River comes: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villian pushes ALL IN, Automatic call right?

(Results in white)
<font color="white">I turn over the high strait and villian truns over K 3 of spades for the flush </font>
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:19 PM
AP0CALYP5E AP0CALYP5E is offline
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Default Re: Can someone review this hand for me?

fold preflop.

You're out of position in a raised pot and it's a trash hand.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: Can someone review this hand for me?

First of all, I disagree with the "fold preflop" comment. The raiser didn't even make a normal raise. You're getting 3:1 expressed odds and enormous implied odds if you flop a hand like that str8. You just have to be able to let it go if you don't connect HARD. I wouldn't play a lot of hands like this, but if your opponent was trying to get tricky w/ AA, he gets stacked here....all for risking 20.

Back to the topic at hand, how much did you know in advance about your opponents play? If you think he is a solid player, you may not want any part of this call. Not only does a flush beat you, but a small raise with a little PP preflop and he could be sitting on a full house and you were drawing dead on the turn.

As it turns out, your opponent is a lucky semi-bluffer. His play was not really very smart for tournament format- especially on the first hand (committing a big chunk of his stack on a draw when you are showing strength). Of course that's why it's a home game.
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:42 PM
Wongboy Wongboy is offline
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Default Re: Can someone review this hand for me?

My tourney strategy is to play tight early. You do not give the structure, and I might be a bit more aggressive if the binds increase very rapidly. Also, you do not give any reads, so I assumed typical play from a $22 online player. My play would be different against a known maniac.

That being said....

Fold pre-flop

As played, I like your flop bet, your turn bet is OK. I fold to the turn raise.

As played, I still fold the river even though you are down to just over 1,000 chips and are getting great pot odds.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:00 AM
TheWorm967 TheWorm967 is offline
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Default Re: Can someone review this hand for me?

thanks for the comments, i know i shouldn't have played the hand but i had zero respect for the PF min raise and when i flopped huge I just couldn't get away from it. I suppose i could have folded thinking he had called a min raise with a pair of 5's
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: Can someone review this hand for me?

The key that you need to take away from this hand is that you have just learned more info about your opponent.

"This guy likes to semi-bluff to play a draw" - have less respect for his raises - he may just be attempting to steal the betting initiative from you.

"He doesn't mind making a big play on a draw" - if you knew this last time, you reraise all-in on the turn and he either folds or pays a helluva price to chase a flush.

"He is not conservative early and therefore could be on a very large range of hands" - useful for evaluating his range in future hands. Let's face it, K3 is crap suited or not.

If you knew all of the above prior to that hand, you have a better chance of taking down the pot.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:06 AM
mana013 mana013 is offline
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Without any reads on villian i think it's a easy fold on river. Any Axs Kxs or pocket 2,4,5,7 has you beat. Being a re-buy you see a lot of people gambling so he could just have a high pocket pair but villian probably would have raised the flop if thats what he had. I say lay it down.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Can someone review this hand for me?

i'm pushing the turn, i have half my stack involved and am ahead most of the time.

if you are sure about calling the river, why didnt you push the turn?

get a rebuy if you are already dead
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:47 PM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: Can someone review this hand for me?

Preflop: fold - but I'd call with 86s or 87o here

Flop: you bet too much but if these guys are going to call huge bets then of course thats fine

Turn: you bet too little... no way you can fold to a min-reraise and I'd give very serious consideration to pushes when he does raise.

River: Crappy. I'd tend to call and just hope villian has a 7. If the tourny is winner take all then its a super easy call.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Can someone review this hand for me?

Push on the turn.

REBUY!
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