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Old 04-23-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

SB has been raising all in most hands. I believe the math says I can call. Is my math right? First time, I've done this. I usually play by feel, but am trying to find holes in my game.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t8785)
Hero (t3350)
Button (t1365)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t3600</font>, Hero calls t2925 (All-In).

Prize structure
1st - $472.5
2nd - $283.5
3rd - $189

Equity before hand:
8785 - $400.70
3350 - $305.68 (me)
1365 - $238.62

Equity if I fold:
9260 - $408.07
2925 - $296.93 (me)
1340 - $240.00

Equity if I call, and win:
6725 - $367.14 (me)
5435 - $345.09
1340 - $232.77s

AKs vs (any Ace except A6o-A2o, any pair or KQs, KJs, KTs, QJs) win 61.0%
(.390 * $189) + (.610 * $367.14) = $297.67

$297.67 &gt; 296.92 so I should call this but fold AK unsuited and AQ, etc??? This seems so wrong to me.
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

Your ranges for him are way off. This seems like a pretty easy call to me. You can always check in SNGPT, which you should certainly have if you play 114s.

Ryan
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

You think my ranges are too tight or too loose?

Why would SNGPT help me? Do you use this program while playing or to train?

If I was to write a program that would randomly generate chip stacks, hands, positions and quiz me would that be the same thing?

Thanks.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

you should buy SnGPT. it helps tons with these calculations, and wont even cost you a buyin ($75). its to train, its impractical to use while playing
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

Thanks poisoned, that's exactly the answer I wanted.

I use linux so can't run it, but I'll write my own program to play around with these concepts. I am obviously giving some hands the wrong value.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

use your balla winnings for a crappy windows laptop for it? dunno
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

3 handed this is an insta call even though shorty has like 3 BB. Seems like you wouldn't even consider folding as this is a 114. It is profitable for him to shove so many hands from the SB as you are going to be folding soooo many hands as the button only has 3 BB. If you're calling range is 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+, then it is profitable for the SB to shove ATC. If your range is a bit looser than that, he should be shoving the top 33% of hands all the way down to 76s. Easy call, play for first.
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

Never fold AKs 3-handed except for bizarro death-zone, shorty-sitting-out type situations. The difference between 3rd and 2nd isn't that big to ever let yourself get pwned.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

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AKs vs (any Ace except A6o-A2o, any pair or KQs, KJs, KTs, QJs) win 61.0%

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I'm scared for you if you usually play by feel, and this is the range your 'feel' assigns to an opponent who is raising all in most hands.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: $114 turbo - call with AKs - ICM help please.

alll innn
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