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Old 04-22-2007, 07:40 PM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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Default Tough spot with AQo in the SB and UTG+1 raise, $650 ME Qualifier

Villain is "PoWhiteGuy" - just moved to table an orbit or so before, and I have no reads. Not much on him in OPR either.

I haven't really done much since he's been at the table, I did make a small PF raise once with 44, then tried taking the pot from this really weak ass guy with it and we ended up going to show-down. That's the only hand I've shown the entire tournament I believe so he couldn't have seen anything else.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1995)
BB (t1975)
UTG (t9700)
UTG+1 (t5010)
MP1 (t3790)
MP2 (t3115)
MP3 (t1710)
CO (t4640)
Button (t5075)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t125, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t350) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ????
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AQo in the SB and UTG+1 raise, $650 ME Qualifier

I like a check raise.

Check and if he bets say 150 you make it 450 back to him.

If he bets 300 then I call and see what he does on the turn.

If he checks after you, then I bet the turn for about 200-300.

Given that this is a qualifier, I am very inclined to get in all-in on the turn if another diamond falls. (eg. you c/rai)
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AQo in the SB and UTG+1 raise, $650 ME Qualifier

I like check-calling here. Reevaluate on the turn.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AQo in the SB and UTG+1 raise, $650 ME Qualifier

I like to bet out about 200 here. If you check, he's definitely going to bet and you don't know where you stand. If he raises, he's got probably got Ax and you ahve to be careful of AK. (Of course there could be a flopped set as well. AA being most likely as UTG+1 shouldn't be raising with 66 or 77).
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AQo in the SB and UTG+1 raise, $650 ME Qualifier

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1995)
BB (t1975)
UTG (t9700)
UTG+1 (t5010)
MP1 (t3790)
MP2 (t3115)
MP3 (t1710)
CO (t4640)
Button (t5075)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t125, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t350) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t250</font>, Hero ???
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AQo in the SB and UTG+1 raise, $650 ME Qualifier

Anyone else? I thought this hand put me in a pretty tough spot between trying to extract as much value as I could but without putting my tournament at risk. Am I just bad and this is standard?
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AQo in the SB and UTG+1 raise, $650 ME Qualifier

I generally go into check-call mode here. In today's aggro games it works out pretty well in the long run. You will get outdrawn sometimes, you will miss value sometimes, and you will call down against AK sometimes. However, I believe in balance the conflicting desires of losing less when behind and getting to showdown with what is likely a good hand make this check-calldown.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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Why is everyone checking this flop???
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:34 PM
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I generally go into check-call mode here. In today's aggro games it works out pretty well in the long run. You will get outdrawn sometimes, you will miss value sometimes, and you will call down against AK sometimes. However, I believe in balance the conflicting desires of losing less when behind and getting to showdown with what is likely a good hand make this check-calldown.

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I like this approach. However, if he checks behind turn, I bet/call river.
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AQo in the SB and UTG+1 raise, $650 ME Qualifier

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Why is everyone checking this flop???

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I'm checking to get bluffed at by KK/QQ/JJ, to get "value-bets" from AJ/AT besides AK (yeah, those are not likely from UTG+1 raiser, but who knows). There are no draws on the board to be afraid of realistically (especially since we had Ad). If he's behind, he has 2-3 outs. If he is ahead, we have 3 outs. Let's try to widen the villain's range with which chips go into the pot.

If you bet...well yeah, he's not folding the unlikely AJ/AT anyway I suppose. But JJ-KK can get away.
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