10/20 set against whitelime

lapoker17 · #1 04-22-2007, 03:37 PM

no one knows who i am so i'm prob seen as a donk - eh, i may be a donk in these games right now. whitelime you can keep my sn to yourself!

10/20 ftp

i open T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the button. whitelime calls in bb. his range for calling in bb is the whole hand i guess.

flop T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 150)

he checks i bet 135 he makes it 420 i...

anyway, i just called. push safe turn maybe(?). dunno what my plan was.

turn 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot 990)

he bets 800 i fold.

who pushes flop?

spino1i · #2 04-22-2007, 03:47 PM

Since I feel like AK/QQ/JJ 3-bets you a lot pre-flop I like pushing the flop..

aejones · #3 04-22-2007, 04:43 PM

what were stacks? i 3bet the flop almost always, as played i shove the turn without much thought assuming 100bb stacks

lapoker17 · #4 04-22-2007, 04:51 PM

haha 100bb. i knew everyone would shove. i dunno i thought his flop raise size was weird.

aejones · #5 04-22-2007, 04:52 PM

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haha 100bb. i knew everyone would shove. i dunno i thought his flop raise size was weird.

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he's not folding QJ (assuming you've got an agggro image), the board is draw heavy, you're not that big of a dog to a straight, and he's almost never got JJ/QQ, seems EZ

lapoker17 · #6 04-22-2007, 04:59 PM

i didn't think he could have qj, but anyway i just called partly b/c no one would play a set like that. but then i pussed out on turn.

aejones · #7 04-22-2007, 05:10 PM

turn doesn't change too much, if he's got pair+ draw it's prob Kq/KJ/KT 4/3 of the time and T9s (you have two tens)/J9s and Q9s 1/4 of the time or less.

obv now you have less equity vs K9 and 89

DJ Sensei · #8 04-22-2007, 05:29 PM

i'd 3-bet flop almost always on this board, since a huge chunk of the deck either kills your hand, kills your action, or lets him bluff you off the winner.

that and i think you're good here like 95% of the time.

CASINOCASINO · #9 04-22-2007, 06:13 PM

id still shove turn, yE

ike · #10 04-23-2007, 12:10 AM

This hand is a mess. 3 bet the flop. I can't think of any good argument for not 3betting the flop. If you misclick and just call the flop, get it in on this turn anyway. Why would you put him on having a 9 enough of the time to make this a fold? He has AK, or QQ almost never and JJ probably pretty rarely.