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Old 04-21-2007, 08:35 AM
simanski simanski is offline
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Default 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

Villain just sat down.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $24.75</font>
BB: $26.30
UTG: $12.15
MP: $24.35
CO: $29.80
BTN: $7.90

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.25, UTG folds, MP calls $1.25, BTN folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($5) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $10</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $6.50

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $13.25</font>, BB calls $13.25

<font color="black">River:</font> ($51.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $51.50 ($2.55 Rake)
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Old 04-21-2007, 08:53 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

What can you do? The flop raise is an unwelcome development, but it doesn't necessairly mean you're beat, and I don't really see how you can get away.

I think this hand basically just displays some of the hazards of raising AK preflop (which, of course, is fine) and then getting called in two places.
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:02 AM
Dr_Mabuse101 Dr_Mabuse101 is offline
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

Depends on Villain. Against a donk who raises you with Kx you can just shove the flop. Against a solid player it is more likely that he has 55 or 77 and want to protect his hand.
The problem with calling here is that you are nearly committed and have to call an allin on the turn.
Against unknown I would say fold and wait for a better spot.
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:04 AM
Pirelli Pirelli is offline
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

Looks good. I don't mind getting it all in on the flop either.
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

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Depends on Villain...

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who just sat down.


I shove flop, I dont think you give up or lose a lot vs. a standard NL25 player.
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

I fold against an unknown. Sometimes push. What does a call accomplish?
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

I would probably cbet more 3-way with 2 hearts out there. Then just 3bet AI, I don't like calling.
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:48 AM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

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I fold against an unknown. Sometimes push. What does a call accomplish?

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Flop or turn?
I would consider a flop fold here against an unknown.
People mess about less in multiway pots.
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Old 04-21-2007, 10:01 AM
simanski simanski is offline
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

I wanted to push turn, although its much better to push at the flop.
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Old 04-21-2007, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL AK - Is it too aggresive ?

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Flop or turn?
I would consider a flop fold here against an unknown.
People mess about less in multiway pots.

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I think at NL25 villains are way too passive, and a raise in multiway pot means usually two pair or better. Am i right ?
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