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Old 04-21-2007, 12:19 AM
YamiYugi YamiYugi is offline
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Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $33.40
BB: $110.51
UTG: $49.55
CO: $68.65
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $39.50</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, SB folds, BB calls $1.25, UTG calls $1.25

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($4.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $4</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $4

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($12.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10

<font color="black">River:</font> ($32.60) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $24</font>

Hero calls, or folds?
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:50 AM
NSchandler NSchandler is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

Pretty much raise every street. Calling down here is horrible.

Villain has a lone spade here quite often, and you want to get the money in the middle quickly. Also, if he has a smaller set, you want the money in the middle before a 4th spade falls and kills your action.

Flop raise it to $15 or so.

Push turn.

Push river. (edit: stacks already in, so just call)
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:50 AM
doppelganger doppelganger is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

This hand is interesting because the stacks are so deep. With only 100BB stacks this would play itself and you're pretty much trying to get it all in on the flop.

Here, I think you have to raise the flop to see where villain stands. I am raising to about $13 to take away his drawing odds. (Much more likely that he holds a draw than a made flush) The only question then would be how to respond to a push. At that point, you've got only $25 left behind and are being offered just under 2:1. That's almost enough to draw to a full house even if you're sure you're beat.

I don't think you can ever be 100% sure he flopped a flush here, so it looks to me like if he wants to play for stacks you've got to oblige. Scary when it's 160BB though.

Anyone else have an opinion?
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:56 AM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

soo no reads??

im raise on the flop and look to get AI. Id hate to call and see another spade hit...
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:42 AM
tarheeljks tarheeljks is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

as is just call. i agree about raising on all streets. at some point he will either come over the top in which case you go all in (assuming another spade hasn't hit), or he will fold.
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

since u called on the flop and turn how can u not call the river when the 3d pops up? again no reads on the other player's.play it fast on the flop and c where u stand...raise
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Old 04-21-2007, 02:03 AM
YamiYugi YamiYugi is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

Ended up i did win, but that guy was nuts.

ok... so raising on the turn. Got that

Thanks guys
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Old 04-21-2007, 02:08 AM
marvin_1935 marvin_1935 is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

[ QUOTE ]
Ended up i did win, but that guy was nuts.

ok... so raising on the turn. Got that

Thanks guys

[/ QUOTE ]

no, raise the flop
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Old 04-21-2007, 02:10 AM
NSchandler NSchandler is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

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Ended up i did win, but that guy was nuts.

ok... so raising on the turn. Got that

Thanks guys

[/ QUOTE ]

You shouldn't only be raising the turn here, you should be raising every chance you get. Raise flop, raise turn, raise river, and if you ever get re-raised, then raise again.

And we know you won, your hand is good here like 99/100 times [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-21-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: QQ on a scary board

scary yes. but even if villian has the flush as pointed out
hes only around a 2 to 1 dog 4 a boat and thats what hes just about getting from the pot.
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