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Old 04-20-2007, 03:10 PM
china_hard china_hard is offline
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Default 77 oop deep against mega fish

I don't find many hands interesting enough to post on here usually, but this is something I've been struggling with getting my head around.

Villain is approx 60/40/3 in his first 30 hands. He is crazy and retarded with his re-raising and bluffing. As at Absolute it is deepstacked and everyone at the table has been letting him pick up lots of pots. Does my play here make me a bigger retard? What range do you like to get it in with?

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($14.45)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($19.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($49.10)</font>
MP ($17.25)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($43.05)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($3.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $10</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($23.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO calls $32.05 (All-In), Hero calls $32.05.

River: ($87.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $87.35
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:19 PM
and12006 and12006 is offline
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

I'd probley wait for a better hand, have you seen him showdown hands? Has he made plays like this before with air? When I think someone's a major fish I sometimes get in the same situation and think they have nothing when they either have a 8, or a overpair or something, but if you read him for air and seen him do this before it looks like a good call.
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

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I'd probley wait for a better hand, have you seen him showdown hands? Has he made plays like this before with air? When I think someone's a major fish I sometimes get in the same situation and think they have nothing when they either have a 8, or a overpair or something, but if you read him for air and seen him do this before it looks like a good call.

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I played this yesterday but I believe at the time I saw him make one surprising showdown he was lucky to win in a medium sized pot. He has been making enough bet/raise/reraises to be doing it often with air.
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

i don't mind the flop call, but i muck this on the turn.
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

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i don't mind the flop call, but i muck this on the turn.

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He almost certainly isn't checking behind on both the turn and river, what turns would you call all-in?
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

You say he is crazy - what do you mean here? After the flop raise can you see him bluffing all the way? I think you ahve to make your mind up on the flop what you are going to do since you cant call to set up and if he is aggro like you say he is never going to check the turn if he has a weakish hand.

I wait for a better spot. Something like pushing AK on this flop (you seen him fold?) or overpairs here.
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

If you wanna look up a lagtard, then this is the best kind of board to do so.

Just know that this is mega variance
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

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You say he is crazy - what do you mean here?

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In 30 hands he has re-raised other players on all streets many times. No one else has taken a stand yet.

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After the flop raise can you see him bluffing all the way? I think you ahve to make your mind up on the flop what you are going to do since you cant call to set up and if he is aggro like you say he is never going to check the turn if he has a weakish hand.
I wait for a better spot. Something like pushing AK on this flop (you seen him fold?) or overpairs here.

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I could see him bluffing all the way, thats why I called. I have barely seen him fold. Are you saying fold to flop reraise or reraise him back again?
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

I think 30 hands isnt quite enough to make a read like this.
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Old 04-20-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: 77 oop deep against mega fish

against a maniac, I might just call with 7's and exercise some pot control.

As played, if this is a maniac, then i'd just push on the flop. Basically any card on the turn is going to scare you, so might as well put him to a tough decision with his A high.
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