how would you play this hand?

[DavidNB]

Just looking for opinions/advice on how you would play it.
9 man tourney $20 buyin top three pay 80/50/30 and starting chips are T2000

8 guys left, I'm the BB and the button-1 is a solid player, value bets and bluffs, stealls antes and often raises in late positionT300-T400 to buy the antes.
Blinds were 50/100, two limpers to the Button-1 who raises to T400 and I have 2 Jacks and around T1600 in chips. The button -1 has maybe T1800.
I decide the pot has enought chips in it and push all in.
What would you do.



He shows KK and takes the pot.

[jojobinks]

i'd never go broke there with just one pair. his raise clearly indicates strength and you're way behind his range.

lay it down every time.

[Small Fry]

all in

[Gonso]

Two limpers, and a good solid player puts in a 4bb raise from the cutoff? Hmm.

My first question is what do you think the callers will do if you just call. That's a weird option, but if they'll stick around with 55 here, I might go multiway with JJ even with these stacks.

Pushing here in some cases is fine.

This is one of those times I'm thinking real hard about the three guys in this pot. What kind of stacks do they have?

[Annorax]

You're at best coinflipping against AK here. Fold.

[DavidNB]

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My first question is what do you think the callers will do if you just call

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They would fold I beleive. The T400 raise I believe was an attempt to force them to fold and pick up the pot. The raiser has done this before in late position. When I went all-in, I knew both limpers would fold, just wasn't sure about the raiser. I didn't want to see a over card on the flop.

[Jeff76]

Easy push. NH, GG when he shows the KK.

With blinds being what they are you aren't going to find a much better spot.

You can only consider folding here if villain is a tight nit, which he isn't according to your description. Seems to me hands like 99 and QJ are definitely in his range.

Calling is horrible, as you'll encourage a multi way pot and you'll have less than a PSB if everyone stays. Any other raise commits you anyway, so push is the only answer.

[Bulldog]

push, lose

[Befolder]

GRUNCH

First leave off his card next time. It tends to taint the answers.

Before I looked down that far, the first thing I noticed when you said he raised to 400, is that's a very small raise for two people having already limped in. Alarm bells went off in my head because it screams for action. The limpers already in are only asked to call 300 (this is before you act) to win 750. Those odds are pretty irresistable.

I'd think about moving in like you, but I'm trying to follow my instincts and my instinct would be to not reraise and just call.

If he's the kind of player you say he is, he knew what he was doing by raising so little and would know a bigger raise is more proper w/ a hand that would rather just take it down .

His plan was executed perfectly and you fell for the trap. Don't feel bad though, I've made the same mistake many times.

[Befolder]

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My first question is what do you think the callers will do if you just call

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They would fold I beleive. The T400 raise I believe was an attempt to force them to fold and pick up the pot. The raiser has done this before in late position. When I went all-in, I knew both limpers would fold, just wasn't sure about the raiser. I didn't want to see a over card on the flop.

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No chance his raise was intended to fold them out if you say he knows what he's doing. To accomplish that, you'd raise an additional BB for every limper before him. A raise to 500 or 600 is more correct for that.