Star $16 - Fold overpair?

[NotSoFarOff]

PokerStars Game #9503665344: Tournament #48245795, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/04/19 - 15:08:45 (ET)
Table '48245795 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: SC72A (885 in chips)
Seat 2: dmusser123 (1325 in chips)
Seat 3: vipey (970 in chips)
Seat 4: El svino (1070 in chips)
Seat 5: gparker1515 (1730 in chips)
Seat 6: cswindhizzie (2100 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (1925 in chips)
Seat 9: GOB_Bluth2 (3495 in chips)
gparker1515: posts small blind 50
cswindhizzie: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [9c 9h]
Hero: raises 200 to 300
GOB_Bluth2: folds
SC72A: folds
dmusser123: folds
vipey: folds
El svino: folds
gparker1515: folds
cswindhizzie: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [4h 8d 4d]
cswindhizzie: checks
Hero: bets 350
cswindhizzie: raises 1450 to 1800 and is all-in
Hero: ??????????

This guy was relatively tight. He wasn't involved in many pots, so when he flat called my raise I got a little suspicious. I figured he could easily have an 8, or he could be making a move thinking that I was bluffing. But I thought he could also very easily be slowplaying a higher pair or a 4. Is this an easy fold?

[Seeeno]

This guy was relatively tight >> Fold

[Hercules]

A good tight player never ever has a 4 here.
WIth your description its not a nice spot to be in, but usually overpair = nuts. if he slowplayed a bigger Pair PF, gg me. I am not folding here ever in a 16$.

[Fammy]

Herc, I have to disagree...

If this guy is tighted as stated, with the way this played out, I have to believe he is sitting on AK (possible) or one of the big pairs (AA, KK, QQ....very maybe JJ, but doubt it). I just have a tough time believing in this situation he is going to get involved with a seriously specutlative hand with the exception of AK. While he might Reraise with the big ones, at this point in the tourny he may be looking to get a large pay off / stack an opponenet when he gets the big hand...then we see a c/r...he is trying to tell us something.

As played, I am out of there.

Fammy

[tsearcher]

This is a friendly tip. You should convert your hand before posting so it looks like this.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1925)
UTG+1 (t3495)
MP1 (t885)
MP2 (t1325)
CO (t970)
Button (t1070)
SB (t1730)
BB (t2100)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t200

Flop: (t650) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t350</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t1800 (All-in)</font>


I think you can fold here. Lots of villains will call a preflop raise with 88, TT-QQ. Some also like to slow play KK and AA. Some will call with A4s also. The only possible hands you have beat are AK, AQ and A8.

[ianisakson]

could be flush draws in there too, and this is exactly how you'll see Kxdd or Axdd play along with top pair hands and occasionally AK/AQ. I call but don't expect to be far ahead too often.

[tsearcher]

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could be flush draws in there too, and this is exactly how you'll see Kxdd or Axdd play along with top pair hands and occasionally AK/AQ. I call but don't expect to be far ahead too often.

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Hero is barely ahead of villain's flush draw. If villain has JTd+ then hero and villain are even 50/50. If villain has J+9d, then hero is ahead 55/45. If villain's small card is 7d or less then hero is 60/40.

Over villains entire range, including my previously mentioned cards hero is a dog and should fold.