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Old 04-18-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default JJ aisle take a look...

sortve same situation, though i'm not sure if JJ=AA here. villan is loose pf but hasnt done anything outrageous post.

hero is taggy, though has been relatively quiet. do you typically check this turn?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">SB: $168.10</font>
BB: $236
UTG: $217.75
<font color="black">Hero (MP): $234</font>
CO: $403
BTN: $446.05

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $7, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($18) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, SB calls $12

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($42) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $27</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $68</font>, [i]Hero ...

fwiw, a 8 is well into his range. he might be dumb enough to flat call with a big pair pre but im not really sure. eh?
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

yea I like a turn check for control and to induce a bet on the river from a worse hand (A4/55-77) that is either bluffraising or folding the turn. As played I'm definitely folding to the check/smallraise.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

I fold here and I agree with Moss. Obviously it's an ideal flop for our hand but I think you get more value out of inducing than you do by betting turn. You gain more when you're ahead and you lose less when you are behind. I don't see many villains getting this crazy with TT,66,55, etc.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

somewhat tough spot. id fold a 9 or worse here, but not jj.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

Bobbo you know he's gonna bet like at least 1/2 pot on river. Donks don't check raise small on the turn then check the river. It's always followed up with a large river bet. So are we prepared to make that call?
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

I fold here and I usually bet the turn.
FWIW I don't think there's that much difference between betting and checking to induce a bet on the river.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

What's up w/ the title? lol

I do check the turn here a fair amount btw.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

your AA hand was semi similar.

in this hand, does JJ=AA? i dont think he has a large pair here much.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

I want to say fold, but that seems like the ghey here. So, I call and see what kind of bet he makes on river (?). Probably fold to a largish bet cuz I'm skayrd. I don't see why he COULDN'T have an overpair here.
Why are the aisle and bobbo checking this turn here a lot? Just curious as your gooder than me and stuff. To induce bluffs and bets from worse hands on reeever?
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: JJ aisle take a look...

bg, stacks. a river shove would be like ~80.
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