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Old 04-18-2007, 12:04 AM
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Villain is 20/14 - only information I have on him.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $520.30
BB: $354.60
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $773</font>
MP: $105.10
CO: $362.50
<font color="black">BTN: $1156.60</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, MP folds, CO calls $14, <font color="red">BTN raises to $62</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $150</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $88

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($320) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $225</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $995</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $770 returned to BTN

I am really kicking myself over this, please give me some insights on every street. thank you.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: laid down overpair KK on flop deep stack please read...

what kinda hands has he shown down in the past? its not really too deep but his hand screams AA here. without reads i doubt he would be bluffing for nearly 2 bi's in this spot
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: laid down overpair KK on flop deep stack please read...

Yeah, I definitely dont' think he's bluffing, but could he do this with AK? I mean QQ is probably in his range. But that's all the information I really have is the vpip and pfr
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:15 AM
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Yeah, I definitely dont' think he's bluffing, but could he do this with AK? I mean QQ is probably in his range. But that's all the information I really have is the vpip and pfr

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id never play AK like this here. QQ is possible but with no reads i wouldnt get so hyper crazy with the worst overpair to the board.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: laid down overpair KK on flop deep stack please read...

call the flop/shove. imo
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: laid down overpair KK on flop deep stack please read...

Grunch ehhhhhhhh. I think you might have made the right call. I meant what hand what do we possibly have beat other than queens right? the J10 on board makes this a fold. On the other hand, he didn't reraise your 3bet, so maybe queens are somewhat likely (as opposed to aces). But i still think the J and the 10 make this a fold.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: laid down overpair KK on flop deep stack please read...

this is totally image/read/player dependant. In a vacuum I say fold, but I wouldnt want to.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:31 AM
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call the flop/shove. imo

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Old 04-18-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: laid down overpair KK on flop deep stack please read...

Thanks guys for your comments. I guess I was just shaken by it.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:53 AM
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this is totally image/read/player dependant. In a vacuum I say fold, but I wouldnt want to.

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