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Old 04-17-2007, 08:28 PM
rdh009 rdh009 is offline
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Default 8/16 JJ hand v flush and overcard board

Villan is 33/17/1.39/63. Not many stats as I am new to game and am taking a shot at 8/16. How's my line? Do you see a fold here, particularly after turn CR? Is pot too big?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:29 PM
admiralfluff admiralfluff is offline
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Default Re: 8/16 JJ hand v flush and overcard board

Fold river for sure.

Almost always fold turn against this guy. Things that would change this to a call would be if his turn aggro were much higher than his flop aggro, if he was noticeably on tilt, if his turn c/r was very high (15+), or if you had seen him c/r semibluff turns before.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: 8/16 JJ hand v flush and overcard board

you can definately find a fold on the river. on the turn you're pretty much just hoping he is on a spade semibluff.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: 8/16 JJ hand v flush and overcard board

Disregard this if his WTSD is in fact 63 over a significant sample, but did you consider raising the river? As you said the pot is big, and there are a fair amount of hands he could plausibly be bet/folding.

I'm not saying you should usually raise in these spots, just consider it.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: 8/16 JJ hand v flush and overcard board

Yeah, just fold the river. The rest is good.
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