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Old 04-17-2007, 03:13 PM
hoyasaxa hoyasaxa is offline
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Default weird big draw in multiway pot

Live .25/.50 game

BB is very aggro PF and postflop, UTG is total lagtard

Two limpers, hero calls from sb with 52h. BB raises to two, UTG calls, other limper folds, hero calls (i love these hands please dont say fold pf).

Flop is 10 9 5, two hearts, giving me a potentially huge draw. Hero checks, BB bets $3.50, UTG calls.

I have an all purpose hand. I can call, raise, or fold.
My thinking is that BB either has an overpair or top pair, against which im a slight favorite. Not really sure what UTG has, maybe a weak 10, but possibly a set hes slowplaying or a higher flush draw, maybe a straight draw.

What do I do here?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

Playing this hand OOP is bad because of spots like this one. Is BB capable of folding an overpair here?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

I dont think so. Hes probably not going to fold A10 or K10 either. So if I hit and im right i get paid off big. Im more worried about a set or a higher flush draw.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

Fold preflop
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

I'm calling here
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

On a serious note, this is a very sticky situation and the other guy could have literally anything at this point, ranging from top 2 pair, to 78 straight draw, QJ draw, or maybe even like KQ of hearts? I would only call to try and hit the flush but try to keep the pot at a minimum if possible to hit a cheap flush...
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

Theres another ever weirder twist. I decided to call and see what came off on the turn. It was another 5, giving me trip fives with bottom kicker. I lead out for $7, BB shoots me a dirty look and pushes all in over the top, having me covered. I had a read and made the right decision pretty quickly, but what do you do here?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

Meh I probably call
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

hmm well, ur about 50% against an over pair and 36% against a set, there is more value in taking the hand down on the flop/turn, i would raise here and bet about the pot on the turn(unless u hit ur draw) but i suggest u tighten up a bit in the blinds, so i suggest next time u fold pree=)
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: weird big draw in multiway pot

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I had a read and made the right decision pretty quickly, but what do you do here?

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How are we supposed to know... we haven't been playing with these people like you have. The correct answer entirely depends on knowing how that player plays and how you think he perceives you.

I know quite a lot of players where you'd be foolish NOT to insta-fold.

And fold pf. Liking to play absolute junkcards to raises OOP is horrible. The odds that hands like 25s are going to be profitable for you is very slim. Playing OOP is typically negative to neutral EV as it is. Playing complete trash from the worst position almost guarantees it.
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