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Old 04-17-2007, 12:23 PM
moafreddie moafreddie is offline
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Default Top pair on flop facing a 3bet

Button is 39/21/1.34.....

How did i play this one??


$2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8.25BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11.25BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: 11.25BB
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:26 PM
johnnyrocket johnnyrocket is offline
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Default Re: Top pair on flop facing a 3bet

QJo is a somewhat loose raise UTg but nothing awful, flop we need to 4 bet cuz we have equity here. Someone is definitely getting in their small edge on a flush/straight draw. We must lead out this blank turn, it is too common that they are drawing and you are giving up free cards, Bet/call the turn, this might narrow the field also, and lead out the river if not reraised on the turn, otherwise check river.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:28 PM
danzasmack danzasmack is offline
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Default Re: Top pair on flop facing a 3bet

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QJo is a somewhat loose raise UTg but nothing awful, flop we need to 4 bet cuz we have equity here. Someone is definitely getting in their small edge on a flush/straight draw. We must lead out this blank turn, it is too common that they are drawing and you are giving up free cards, Bet/call the turn, this might narrow the field also, and lead out the river if not reraised on the turn, otherwise check river.

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I strongly disagree and play this hand the same.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Top pair on flop facing a 3bet

The preflop raise is a little too loose for me. The flop is a question of call or fold but I think we can call given the pot size and the drawy board. Turn and river are easy and well played imo.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:59 PM
moafreddie moafreddie is offline
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Default Re: Top pair on flop facing a 3bet

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The preflop raise is a little too loose for me.

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So you would advocate a preflop fold instead here?
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Top pair on flop facing a 3bet

Preflop is close.

If the rake is low, the players to your right dont coldcalls much and you have a postflop edge you can prolly play it profitably.

However, the rake is not low on 2/4 unless you play at WPEX.

And yes, if you dont raise it preflop, fold it. Dont open limp in 6max unless the table conditions are extremely special.
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