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Old 04-17-2007, 05:27 AM
Kristian Kristian is offline
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Default 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

Villain is unpossiblational, a solid regular, running at 20/16/3. Good fold?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($732.15)
Hero ($1220.50)
MP ($386.11)
CO ($658.70)
Button ($591)
SB ($727.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $24, Button calls $24, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($81) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $154</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $300
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:38 AM
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

I would probably call and bet 3/4 pot on any non spade turn.
so many draws he would do this with.
pretty sure you're ahead here.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

Good fold vs him
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:54 AM
NoPokerInAfrica NoPokerInAfrica is offline
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

I hate these situations because you're either gonna win nothing from them or lose a lot.

If you call and bet 3/4 on the turn, you're calling 89 and betting about 300 on the turn. If you're right and you're winning he folds and you win the $300 from the flop. If you're wrong you're drawing dead. so you're risking about 400 to win 300...are you winning 55-60% of the time? (it would have to be a litle higher than this since a 4th spade will turn sometimes) From a solid player my guess would be no &lt;shrug&gt;
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

can't he have a weaker ace with a spade draw ?
what about betting 1/2 pot on turn
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

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can't he have a weaker ace with a spade draw ?
what about betting 1/2 pot on turn

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people will usually call those kinda hands. it's not impossible for him to raise that here but i feel unlikely.

this is a bad spot to put anymore money in because we're drawing nearly dead very often. it's a fold.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

WB/SA OOP = Fold

Your either way behind or slightly ahead. Furthermore, your OOP against a decent player, which means its completely impossible to play the hand correctly. Essentialy its just a horrid RIO odds situation and I prefer a quick exit rather than putting ourselves in a difficult situation where we are likely to just lose more.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:39 AM
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

pretty easy fold.
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

I CB less on those boards like $50

as played pretty easy fold unless he raises a lot of flops
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:57 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: 600NL: Folding TPTK on flop.

standard, even id fold here
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