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Old 04-16-2007, 08:38 PM
recallme recallme is offline
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Default Flush Standard play?

Table "Lopez" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: mickeyo7 ($668.18 in chips)
Seat 2: CPC06 ($268.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Morgoth79 ($214.50 in chips)
Seat 5: unicoern ($199 in chips)
Seat 6: Sabona ($56 in chips)
Sabona: posts small blind $1
mickeyo7: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to unicoern [4d 5d]
CPC06: raises to $7
Morgoth79: folds
unicoern: calls $7
Sabona: folds
mickeyo7: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- [8c 6d 3s]
mickeyo7: checks
CPC06: bets $15
unicoern: raises to $40
mickeyo7: folds
CPC06: calls $25
----- TURN ----- [8c 6d 3s][Kd]
CPC06: checks
unicoern: checks
----- RIVER ----- [8c 6d 3s Kd][3d]
CPC06: bets $99
unicoern: raises to $152 and is all-in
CPC06: calls $53

I could have bet turn, but i thought that the free card is better right now and perhaps he was even going for SAD.
Pushing river is standard, or?
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Old 04-16-2007, 08:41 PM
The White Rabbit The White Rabbit is offline
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

No, river is close between a crying call and a fold.

Most of the time I fold preflop too.
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Old 04-16-2007, 08:48 PM
Margin Of Error Margin Of Error is offline
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

river play should either be C/F or C/C depending on his bet size.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

He definately can`t think i have the flush here, i showed weaknesson the turn and you would fold it?

You can`tbe serious.What are the reasons?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

Can someone explain me why i should fold?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

LOL at folding river.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

i bet turn and call a push. you have some fold equity and tons of outs.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

im thinkin his range on the river is AA, maybe 86, maybe 57, and hands that beat you. id probably play it the same in game but thinking about it now the river looks like a call. his most likely hand after the flop is an overpair but once the K comes i dont think hes going to pot the river with JJ.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:54 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

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He definately can`t think i have the flush here, i showed weaknesson the turn and you would fold it?

You can`tbe serious.What are the reasons?

[/ QUOTE ]

Given the very dry board and the fact that he called your flop raise, this river bet looks a LOT like a missed turn c/r.

Ask yourself which hands he would c/r the turn with that you now beat.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:54 PM
niffe9 niffe9 is offline
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Default Re: Flush Standard play?

River is a really weird one. It puts your backdoor flush out there but villain sees it at as a complete brick. Your hand looks like a monster or a bluff. I think you have to bet river as played and you just have to call the raise and hope for some weird AK or AA or something.
I think you have a lot of choices as far as lines are considered. I like just calling on the flop here most of the time. Betting turn is good if you think you can fold pairs worse than K's.
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