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Old 04-16-2007, 01:55 PM
Killingbird Killingbird is offline
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Default QQ Post Flop at the Final Table - Raise / Reraise / Call Preflop

Final table of the $10 buy-in Midnight Madness on FTP.

5 Players left and I am 3rd in Chips. Villain is the Chip leader.

Seat 2: Villain (610,189)
Seat 6: Hero (373,123)

I've been playing with the villain since we went to two tables and he seems standard TAG.

Blinds: t5000/t10000
(Ante: t1000)
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with :qh :qs
3 folds, SB raises to t35000</font>, Hero raises to t80000</font>, SB calls t45000 (pot was t105000)</font>.

Flop: :4d :3c :js (t165000, 2 players)
SB bets t165000</font>, </font>,

what is my move here?
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: QQ Post Flop at the Final Table - Raise / Reraise / Call Preflop

No idea of stack size ... but I shove
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: QQ Post Flop at the Final Table - Raise / Reraise / Call Preflop

sorry...my first hand history post. I added stack sizes.
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: QQ Post Flop at the Final Table - Raise / Reraise / Call Preflop

I can't see how I'm not pushing here.
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: QQ Post Flop at the Final Table - Raise / Reraise / Call Preflop

I would push.
This is a battle of the blinds so he can't assume you are as strong as QQ. So there are plenty of hands that you are stronger than that might call you after this flop.

He did not reraise you PF, so I think it unlikely he has KK or AA. If he has flopped a set, well that is poker.

After calling his raise, you would only be left with ~130,000 and the pot would now be ~500k so I don't see how he does not call an all-in.
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:45 PM
JMurder3 JMurder3 is offline
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Default Re: QQ Post Flop at the Final Table - Raise / Reraise / Call Preflop

Make like Salt &amp; Pepa &amp;...well you figure it out [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-16-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: QQ Post Flop at the Final Table - Raise / Reraise / Call Preflop

Push. Hope he has AJ or KJ. Or TT/99 and he can't fold that. That's a pretty reasonable holding here.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: QQ Post Flop at the Final Table - Raise / Reraise / Call Preflop

[ QUOTE ]
I would push.
This is a battle of the blinds so he can't assume you are as strong as QQ. So there are plenty of hands that you are stronger than that might call you after this flop.

He did not reraise you PF, so I think it unlikely he has KK or AA. If he has flopped a set, well that is poker.

After calling his raise, you would only be left with ~130,000 and the pot would now be ~500k so I don't see how he does not call an all-in.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't agree. Lots and lots of villians don't 4-bet AA/KK pf in this situation. I know that I wouldn't. He raised from SB, got re-raised, and hero's reraise is for slightly bigger than 1/5 of the effective stack.
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Old 04-16-2007, 06:18 PM
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Shove and its not even close.
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Old 04-16-2007, 07:13 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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very easy shove.

your hand is really strong for a bvb conflict
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