Is not believing in gay rights biggoted?

[WichitaDM]

So i just got into a huge fight with my mother over gay rights. Basically she is a typical conservative, and i of course am not. She believes that allowing gays to marry would decrease family values in the Us, and therefore ruin the society fabric of a "family". I told her that adding a title and a few rights (such as tax benefits and insurance sharing for couples) would not have an impact at all on straight families. The same number of people will be gay, regardless. I proceeded to say that i felt that not believing in equal rights for gays and straight couples was bigotted. Of course she was angry and hung up on me. Thoughts?

[SNOWBALL]

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So i just got into a huge fight with my mother over gay rights. Basically she is a typical conservative, and i of course am not. She believes that allowing gays to marry would decrease family values in the Us, and therefore ruin the society fabric of a "family". I told her that adding a title and a few rights (such as tax benefits and insurance sharing for couples) would not have an impact at all on straight families. The same number of people will be gay, regardless. I proceeded to say that i felt that not believing in equal rights for gays and straight couples was bigotted. Of course she was angry and hung up on me. Thoughts?

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Calling your mom a bigot is bad, mmmmkay?

[NewTeaBag]

Instantly "hate labeling" those we disagree with is a poor argument form and smacks of the PC society much of The West has become.

I don't see anywhere in your OP where your mother hates gay people or any such stuff. Because she has different views to you doesn't make her a biggot.

PS I am fully in support of equal rights and protections for homosexuals (marriage, service in military, e.t.c.)

[WichitaDM]

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Instantly "hate labeling" those we disagree with is a poor argument form and smacks of the PC society much of The West has become.

I don't see anywhere in your OP where your mother hates gay people or any such stuff. Because she has different views to you doesn't make her a biggot.

PS I am fully in support of equal rights and protections for homosexuals (marriage, service in military, e.t.c.)

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So believing that others should be of lower legal standing to you based on sexuality is not biggoted? Im just asking because i guess i always considered this was. I never called my mother a bigot directly. I simply said that if you believed that certain groups deserved lesser rights than others that was discrimination/bigotry.

[xorbie]

Not belieiving in gay rights is pretty much the definition of bigoted.

[NewTeaBag]

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Instantly "hate labeling" those we disagree with is a poor argument form and smacks of the PC society much of The West has become.

I don't see anywhere in your OP where your mother hates gay people or any such stuff. Because she has different views to you doesn't make her a biggot.

PS I am fully in support of equal rights and protections for homosexuals (marriage, service in military, e.t.c.)

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So believing that others should be of lower legal standing to you based on sexuality is not biggoted? Im just asking because i guess i always considered this was. I never called my mother a bigot directly. I simply said that if you believed that certain groups deserved lesser rights than others that was discrimination/bigotry.

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When you the frame the question "just so," you are looking for a correct answer. Many people on many issues don't look at it from that perspective.

I'm sure many, non-biggoted, reasonable people might look at it from the perspective of not elevating other groups legal status purely based upon _______. Looking at it from this perspective, you can see it is not so black and white. There exists a middle ground of thought that doesn't make one either a biggot or a flaming haired liberal.

[xorbie]

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There exists a middle ground of thought that doesn't make one either a biggot or a flaming haired liberal.

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It may not be consious bigotry, but that's what it is.

[WichitaDM]

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Instantly "hate labeling" those we disagree with is a poor argument form and smacks of the PC society much of The West has become.

I don't see anywhere in your OP where your mother hates gay people or any such stuff. Because she has different views to you doesn't make her a biggot.

PS I am fully in support of equal rights and protections for homosexuals (marriage, service in military, e.t.c.)

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So believing that others should be of lower legal standing to you based on sexuality is not biggoted? Im just asking because i guess i always considered this was. I never called my mother a bigot directly. I simply said that if you believed that certain groups deserved lesser rights than others that was discrimination/bigotry.

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When you the frame the question "just so," you are looking for a correct answer. Many people on many issues don't look at it from that perspective.

I'm sure many, non-biggoted, reasonable people might look at it from the perspective of not elevating other groups legal status purely based upon _______. Looking at it from this perspective, you can see it is not so black and white. There exists a middle ground of thought that doesn't make one either a biggot or a flaming haired liberal.

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While i understand your argument, making one group of people subject to a lesser set of rights is disciminatory at least in my eyes.

[lippy]

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There exists a middle ground of thought that doesn't make one either a biggot or a flaming haired liberal.

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It may not be consious bigotry, but that's what it is.

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This depends on one's definition of a homosexual. If someone considers homosexuality a choice, regardless of the merits of that opinion, then they would not be acting with bigotry.

[Johnny Drama]

according to Wikipedia,
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A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.

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so it seems that it is bigoted not to believe in gay rights.