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04-15-2007, 01:01 PM
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am i too tight preflop?
UTG is reasonable taggish dude with like 16% pfr and Button is fairly unknown at this time i terms of pfr range but i sit to his right for a reason
1. Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $10/$20 iam BB with KJo 4 players Converter Pre-flop: (4 players) <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls. 2. 4 handed UTG whos fishy but not aggro pre raises iam sb with A9o> i folded... 
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#2
04-15-2007, 01:13 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
Surely these are both easy folds.
Guy.
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#3
04-15-2007, 01:13 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
1. If button isn't really loose agressive I never ever call this, you're so far behind his range if he is reasonable.
2. Depends on what "not aggro" means. If his pfr is n't significantly low i 3-bet this, vs a tag my 3 bettign range is A7o+ What are you stats? edit: @ guy: how is A9o an "easy fold" against a CO open-raise?
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#4
04-15-2007, 01:21 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
im 29/19.5, i know im not too tight pf i just wanted to know becauz it was 4 handed and i might had to adjust
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#5
04-15-2007, 01:23 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
[ QUOTE ]
UTG is reasonable taggish dude with like 16% pfr and Button is fairly unknown at this time i terms of pfr range but i sit to his right for a reason 1. Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $10/$20 iam BB with KJo 4 players Converter Pre-flop: (4 players) <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls. [/ QUOTE ] Easy fold [ QUOTE ] 2. 4 handed UTG whos fishy but not aggro pre raises iam sb with A9o> i folded... [/ QUOTE ] Usually a fold is right. You say the player was fishy??? If he was super high in his early position raises or particularly brittle towards you at this time you might three bet, but it would be a rare context dependent play. calling is not an option.
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#6
04-15-2007, 01:28 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
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2. Depends on what "not aggro" means. If his pfr is n't significantly low i 3-bet this, vs a tag my 3 bettign range is A7o+ What are you stats? edit: @ guy: how is A9o an "easy fold" against a CO open-raise? [/ QUOTE ] He's talking about an UTG raiser with you in the SB This means your out of position post flop. Your suggested three bet standard of A7o+ in this position sounds interesting. Where do you play??
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#7
04-15-2007, 01:32 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
i 3bet against most there.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 486,294,336 games 0.062 secs 7,843,457,032 games/sec Board: Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 49.436% 45.97% 03.46% 223568479 16837953.50 { Ac9d } Hand 1: 50.564% 47.10% 03.46% 229049950 16837953.50 { 44+, A4s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J9s+, T9s, A6o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo } ---
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#8
04-15-2007, 01:33 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
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[ QUOTE ] 2. Depends on what "not aggro" means. If his pfr is n't significantly low i 3-bet this, vs a tag my 3 bettign range is A7o+ What are you stats? edit: @ guy: how is A9o an "easy fold" against a CO open-raise? [/ QUOTE ] He's talking about an UTG raiser with you in the SB This means your out of position post flop. Your suggested three bet standard of A7o+ in this position sounds interesting. Where do you play?? [/ QUOTE ] In case you didn't know, in a 4 handed game the CO is in fact UTG. I'm playing on party and sometimes on fulltilt.
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#9
04-15-2007, 01:46 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 2. Depends on what "not aggro" means. If his pfr is n't significantly low i 3-bet this, vs a tag my 3 bettign range is A7o+ What are you stats? edit: @ guy: how is A9o an "easy fold" against a CO open-raise? [/ QUOTE ] He's talking about an UTG raiser with you in the SB This means your out of position post flop. Your suggested three bet standard of A7o+ in this position sounds interesting. Where do you play?? [/ QUOTE ] In case you didn't know, in a 4 handed game the CO is in fact UTG. I'm playing on party and sometimes on fulltilt. [/ QUOTE ] Yup I missed the 4 players when I read the OP. but I still don't like being out of position with a hand like this. I'd be keener to 3 bet from the button.
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#10
04-15-2007, 01:53 PM
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Re: am i too tight preflop?
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Yup I missed the 4 players when I read the OP. but I still don't like being out of position with a hand like this. I'd be keener to 3 bet from the button. [/ QUOTE ] Of course I'd rather be on the button with A9o, but as i stated earlier, against readable tags A9o is good enough. I wouldn't 3-bet this if villian is rather passive preflop ( ~ pfr < 15 or something) and I would feel uncomfortable 3-betting this versus a calling station ( altough the equity forces me to do it). Versus UTG in a 6-handed game I obv. won't 3-bet A7o from the SB. My minimum AXo hand is ATo-AQo, depending on the raiser. I hope you like this better [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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