pretty simple AK hand

[tannenj]

villain is 23/18/8 and we've been tangling for a few days now. i think he's a pretty solid player who has some moves. he should have me at about 21-22/17-18/~4 and probably respects my play.

i bet this turn sometimes. given that i didn't, what do you like on the river?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
5 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $121.50
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $566.30</font>
UTG: $118.80
<font color="black">CO: $433</font>
BTN: $123

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $54</font>, CO calls $40

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($104) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $80</font>, CO calls $80

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($264) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

<font color="black">River:</font> ($264) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero...

[MasterLJ]

I like the turn check against villain, river killed your action.

There is some value, but it's not much which makes me wonder why it's even worth betting since I don't see many worse hands calling. I might check again to induce a thin value bet from QQ or the like (EDIT: or a bluff obv)... but in reality I probably just shove.

[FishSticks]

Yah if villain had a beast you'd think he'd raise flop or bet turn to protect against clubs and build value. Not a ton can call a river bet, but it's unlikely you're behind anything given the action.

I would fire a 2nd barrel on the turn tho against a regular to protect my 2barreling with air.

[CobraGoat]

Why shove?

[MasterLJ]

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Why shove?

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That's what I was saying.

In my 2+2 analysis I'd probably c/c (to induce) since I really don't think worse hands are calling... ever. It would be a heinously played QQ or AQ, and that's it.

[plan9]

Think you have to check river after checking turn.

[carnivalhobo]

60, call shove

[Panthro]

like nothing looks you up on the river unless he's one to make hero calls or your image is bad or something.

[Mike MacIntosh]

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Yah if villain had a beast you'd think he'd raise flop or bet turn to protect against clubs and build value. Not a ton can call a river bet, but it's unlikely you're behind anything given the action.

I would fire a 2nd barrel on the turn tho against a regular to protect my 2barreling with air.

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I agree 100%. Betting this turn will help disguise your bluffs. Also, your hand starts to stink when you check this turn. Villain may reason that you would only check with a real hand, and 2 barrel anything else.

BTW, where you going for a c/r on this turn?

[Imrahil]

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60, call shove

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