kinda ugly spot KK 2/4

[cashy]

Villain is a fish @ around 40/20

This flop is soooo ugly but the pot is already very big and Villain is a fish.
I really didnt know what to do.

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $587.74
<u>BB: $370.71</u>
UTG: $423.80
MP: $262
CO: $449.15
<u>Hero (BTN): $401.80</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $52</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $158</font>, BB calls $106

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($312) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $40</font>

[Big_Jim]

Leads the A high flop in a 4 bet pot, hah

Can he really show up here with a bluff??

man.. it's so easy for him to get the chips in, even if he keeps betting like this, and you might be drawing deadish

[Hoopster81]

well, I'm not folding yet

[jumbojacks]

call, though I really think he has an A here being that he's a fish (their thought process is probably along the lines of i'm betting to see where i am, (raise), i might be beat but i have top pair so i call)

More interestingly, at what point do you consider folding if he bet 50? 100? 150?

Also, how would you play this if a smart reg bet 50 into you?

[cashy]

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($312) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $40</font>, <font color="red">Hero calls $40</font>


<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($392) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">BB bets $70</font>,<font color="red">Hero pukes and folds </font>

somebody calls turn?
Is Villain doing this with a hand i can beat?

[jumbojacks]

Actually, BB could be doing this with a draw...

Edit: less likely so when he bets turn, my comment was for the flop

[cashy]

I really felt that he has at least an ace

btw:
He proudly showed his aq

[mostman]

Yeah - I would have figured AQ. Even though he is a 40 - once he calls your second raise you can only put him on a few hands - AQ being the worst. All but one, has you beat, and that one is what you have.

If he had AK - given his line - he would have done one of two things - check raise you all in - or just shove under the gun. Same thing if he flopped a set of aces. AQ is the only thing that makes sense. He thinks this is sneaky - he thinks he is value betting the flop.

Personally, I fold the flop. But my KK hands have been getting wrecked lately (KK vs AA 5 times in the last 3 days!) - so maybe I am being timid [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-Mike