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Old 04-11-2007, 11:02 PM
MasterLJ MasterLJ is offline
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Default Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

Villain is 20/14 and passive. He's not very good and he folds to flop bets 57.9% of the time

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SB: $241.15
BB: $69.40
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $100</font>
MP: $54.75
CO: $61.95
BTN: $94.50

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $4, SB folds, BB calls $3

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($12) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, BTN calls $10, BB folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($32) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ???



I'm more interested in why you do whichever action.

If we check turn and villain bets, then what?
If villain checks behind, what's our plan on the river?
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:15 PM
willw9 willw9 is offline
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

This looks like a standard bet/fold to me, but although this would seem ideal, I always find that villain raises/folds in this spot and never calls. Obviously, neither are good.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

will, just pointing out, but then the fact that you have a set means bupkis if your playing it that way, doesn't it ? Not exactly optimal &lt;3
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:19 PM
J. Stew J. Stew is offline
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

think you have to bet here to protect against lone [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] if he raises he's got a flush and see what the pots layin.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

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think you have to bet here to protect against lone [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] if he raises he's got a flush and see what the pots layin.

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If we do that we'll always be getting 2.5 to 1 and will always be paying off the flush. Is that counter balanced by the times he calls holding just a Q?
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

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This looks like a standard bet/fold to me, but although this would seem ideal, I always find that villain raises/folds in this spot and never calls. Obviously, neither are good.

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bet/fold seems bad to me. We're 20% to fill on the river. That combined with many non flush hands and the size of the pot are why I'm thinking this.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

What about checking?

I think a lot of bad players check behind with flushes even IP. Sometimes they bet ridiculously small as well.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

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What about checking?

I think a lot of bad players check behind with flushes even IP. Sometimes they bet ridiculously small as well.

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That was my original thought, it just seemed kinda weak so I didn't post it. The fact that he folds so often on the flop really limits is range, imo. I think checking is the best option here.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

I checked...

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($32) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

<font color="black">River:</font> ($32) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ???

I have some interesting thoughts about the river. What do you guys do?
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Play this hand for me: Flopped set UTG, Turn Sucks

20 on the river, and if he's passive I'd sigh then probably fold to a raise.
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