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Old 04-11-2007, 09:14 PM
LuckyDice LuckyDice is offline
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Default 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

Villain is 23/18/3. I'm about the same.

After he almost timed out making the turn call, I put him on some sort of overpair (not sure how big though).

So, is this a huge spew, or an actually decent time to bluff?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($121)
MP ($218)
CO ($178.85)
Hero ($677.25)
SB ($205.10)
BB ($209.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14.

Turn: ($47) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $33</font>, MP calls $33.

River: ($113) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

Preflop is meh imo. I don't think he's folding much on the river since the 9 doesn't really change much.
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

9 doesn't change anything BUT this isn't a bad line as you are easily repping 45/65/76/etc. he may have called turn to fold river since most people give up on river if FOS.

i don't mind this, but preflop is definitely meh
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

preflop is bad especially if you arent comfortable messing around postflop.

id just check the river, i think you are good vs missed spades often, i dont think villains turn line looks like an overpair at all.
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

In my experience, I'm getting looked up with TT+ all day on the river. If you think villain can make the laydown, then its probably fine.
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Old 04-11-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

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id just check the river, i think you are good vs missed spades often, i dont think villains turn line looks like an overpair at all.

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yah i meant to say this too. a good portion of the hands you fold out you beat anyway. but a lot of people play weak top pair hands like this...
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

All,

preflop is definitely meh, but I don't think it's horrible.

I think a lot of the value in the bluff comes from the fact that most people expect me to give up if I'm FOS (like CAterp said). Spades are definitely a part of his range, but I'd be sick if I checked it down and he showed that he randomly paired his spade draw.

Overall, I think my line is scary and he doesn't have a strong enough hand to call it down. If you disagree, why?
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

I like this if you are quite sure that he has an overpair through a read of some sort. Most of hero's feasible one pair hands on the flop improved to two pair or better by the river (45, 56, 66, 76, etc). I feel like the only time that you might have air here is whiffed spades and an Axss like you have.

However, I dont necessarily think his line is always repping an overpair. He might have something like 67 78 and maybe whiffed spades.

All in all, i think your line is good considering your preflop call and your flop call.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

i think this is fine...i might raise flop sometiems to try this. I dunno why you took this line instead of just checking it down though. seems like a waste of your hand much of the time.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:13 AM
JopkerPwns JopkerPwns is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL: I spew more than fgators (bluffing an overpair)

You describe the villain as good.
Why would someone who is good call with an overpair?
The 9 changes things a little.
It ensures that the overpair beats absolutely nothing.
As a matter of fact i think he may have a set given that he peeled the turn.
All said, I like it.
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