Theory: Implied odds, how many can you call with medium pair?

[PokerAmateur4]

You have 77

10 person table, everyone has 100bb.

Middle position raises to 4bb.

He voluntarily puts $ in pot %9, raising %6 of those. Thus you figure he raises once for every 16 hands he sees pre flop. Assume position is irrelevant to his open raise standards. Assume he is at least non bottom of the barrel skill for $200 buy in NL players post flop.

You are on the button, do you call 4bb, justify answer, and how many BB will you cold call?

Thanks

[bdams19]

10% rule? a 6% pfr usually means overpair correct?

[PokerAmateur4]

The 10% rule means you can call for set value if it less then %10 of your stack, right?

Also, second related question:
With a given % PF raise, what can we put him on PF. Doesn't it get complicated sense there are more combinations of AK than AA etc.?

[Redgrape]

The 10% rule only applies if you're sure you're going to stack the guy. It's more like a 7.5% rule.
Here yes you call and be happy because your stacking him off a lot more than other players.

[duh]

with those stats, he is only raising big pairs, not AK (for the most part).

EZ call. It is sooo EZ because this player only plays big pairs, and he will end up getting married to them almost every time because they are so few and far between. This player cannot afford to be folding overpairs, like a looser player can.

[LearnedfromTV]

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This player cannot afford to be folding overpairs, like a looser player can.

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This is exactly backwards.

Of course, yes, in practice, he will go broke like every time you flop a set and his big pair remains an overpair.

[duh]

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This player cannot afford to be folding overpairs, like a looser player can.

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This is exactly backwards.


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WTF, what?
Solid LAGs don't get married to hands like tighties do. A PREFLOP ULTRA NIT waits a long time to get AA, and simply won't fold it. For a LAG however, AA is just another hand.

[BobboFitos]

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This player cannot afford to be folding overpairs, like a looser player can.

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This is exactly backwards.


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WTF, what?
Solid LAGs don't get married to hands like tighties do. A PREFLOP ULTRA NIT waits a long time to get AA, and simply won't fold it. For a LAG however, AA is just another hand.

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sorry, thats wrong. i get married to anything. AA is not another hand.

[Boquense]

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This player cannot afford to be folding overpairs, like a looser player can.

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This is exactly backwards.


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WTF, what?
Solid LAGs don't get married to hands like tighties do. A PREFLOP ULTRA NIT waits a long time to get AA, and simply won't fold it. For a LAG however, AA is just another hand.

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Wow. Completely and utterly backwards.

[BobboFitos]

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with those stats, he is only raising big pairs, not AK (for the most part).

EZ call. It is sooo EZ because this player only plays big pairs, and he will end up getting married to them almost every time because they are so few and far between. This player cannot afford to be folding overpairs, like a looser player can.

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thats wrong, too. 6% pfr, of course positional awareness matters, but:
AA (.5%)
+KK (.9%)
+QQ (1.4%)
+JJ (1.8%)
+TT (2.3%)
+99 (2.7%)
+AKs (3%)
+AKo (3.9%)
+AQs (4.2%)
+AQo (5.1%)

Maybe something like AJs (5.4%) + ATs (5.7%) + KQs (6%) accounts for the rest.

needless to say, you call this everytime on the button.