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It\'s been a while.
Are these forums going to stick around this time? Yes? Well let's give it a shot.
I haven't played since September, I'm rusty, yadda yadda yadda you've heard all this by now. I'm still trying to shake out the cobwebs in my poker head, so I figure a refresher from my last session might help. The button in this hand is fairly LAGtardish, especially when I've raised preflop. I think he's checkraised me after a PFR at every opportunity regardless of holdings, then folded to further aggression. His money flows clockwise. <u>Hand 1</u> Full Tilt Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.25/$0.5 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.4SB, 4 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, CO calls. Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.7BB, 3 players) Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks. River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.7BB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero... Results: Final pot: 14.7BB I'm not really inclined to believe him here, given his turn check. Believe him here or go for another round? ---------------- <u>Hand 2</u> Full Tilt Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.25/$0.5 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls, SB calls. Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero... Not closing the action, A on flop, bet into, should I bother here? This is the same villain as the last hand. There was one other hand but looking at it again this morning I think it was obvious. Are these? |
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Re: It\'s been a while.
I think the first is a pretty easy call, the second a pretty easy fold.
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Re: It\'s been a while.
c/c the first, fold the second.
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Re: It\'s been a while.
This is more answering a question with a question. How do think answering this guys flop aggression habit with a raise or reraise regardless of your hand for a couple of turns would affect his style? Especially the times you are HU and in position. He's betting the cheap streets to steal so what if we turn the tables some of the time? Either or both of these hands might be worth a try on the flop.
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Re: It\'s been a while.
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I'm not really inclined to believe him here, given his turn check. Believe him here or go for another round? [/ QUOTE ] you ~said he likes to bet/fold, so I see no reason to reraise. Don't ever fold. |
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Re: It\'s been a while.
Meh hand 1 seems ok (however I think I fold flop), b/c river - I don't think given your read you should 3bet and risk getting capped. Don't post results (BB amount) ;p
I like a raise in hand 2. SB could be doing this with a draw or a lower pocker pair. If you get a coldcall behind you you pbb can give it up right there but if you get it HU there might be a reason to continue. I have no idea what line to take though. Bet/bet is basicly betting his ace rag hand for him and check behind turn call any river just seems wrong. (pro: you let him bluff a busted draw on the river, con: you give a free card) How about bet the turn check behind on the river, folding to further agression anywhere from SB? |
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Re: It\'s been a while.
Hand 1
after BTN raises and checks turn - i don't see much value in betting out on the river ... I think there are 3 options here BTN is being completely retard raising air ... wont call river bet (but could bet the river) BTN has some garbage King ... he'll call or raise, and likely bet if checked to BTN has a small pocket pair ... and he'll probably bet that too if checked too as played I don't think I can fold to such a retarded line Hand 2 with two players to act I would rather fold ... depending on want this retard showed down in the last hand I could see calling and either a/ calling down if the others fold b/folding the turn if either players calls that flop |
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Re: It\'s been a while.
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...I like a raise in hand 2. SB could be doing this with a draw or a lower pocker pair. If you get a coldcall behind you you pbb can give it up right there but if you get it HU there might be a reason to continue. I have no idea what line to take though. [/ QUOTE ] raising the flop make no since what-so-ever ... what hands do you think are calling an ace high flop with no real draws this idea is misplaced aggression and will get you into a lot of trouble |
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Re: It\'s been a while.
i would raise in hand 2. the pot is big, villain has given us the gift of hand protection, and he's a big enough spaz to bet with lots of things that don't beat us here. 1 SB is a small investment in a 9 SB pot and this investment will make our play on later streets very simple.
hand 1 is a super easy call. |
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Re: It\'s been a while.
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i would raise in hand 2. the pot is big, villain has given us the gift of hand protection, and he's a big enough spaz to bet with lots of things that don't beat us here. 1 SB is a small investment in a 9 SB pot and this investment will make our play on later streets very simple. hand 1 is a super easy call. [/ QUOTE ] i assume somewhat sensible players acting behind (so we aren't folding hands like JJ-KK, cause they don't have them) what hands are calling A53 rainbow if they are somewhat inclined to call very liberally on the flop, then perhaps a raise is a good move |
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