Flop top pair against raiser

[lonn19]

.10/.25 NL 6 max
I am BB with 10s 9s
Folds to Button who raises to $1
SB calls, I call
Flop: 9c 3c 3h
SB checks, I bet $2, button raises to $5.25, SB folds, Hero ???

[lonn19]

Forgot stack sizes. I had $16 going into the hand and both SB and button had me covered.

[jmgambler]

Depending on the button, I would probably fold PF
As played you have to fold, why did you bet the flop? alot of the time the original bettor will raise you and leave you in this position.

Even if he just calls, where does that leave you?
C/R the flop

[Fiksdal]

The preflop would be thin OOP if you were 100bbs deep. You are playing with a short stack, and then it is just a bad call. Why don't you have a full stack btw?

Fold the flop, button is representing TT+.

[TheRenaissance]

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Depending on the button, I would probably fold PF
As played you have to fold, why did you bet the flop? alot of the time the original bettor will raise you and leave you in this position.

Even if he just calls, where does that leave you?
C/R the flop

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I think you did so well up until this sentence. A flop cr will turn our hand into a bluff, representing a lot more strength then we actually have.

CC flop, lead non-broadway turn/CF broadway.

[TheRenaissance]

My take on preflop:

Fold >> 3b >>>> Call

[jmgambler]

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Depending on the button, I would probably fold PF
As played you have to fold, why did you bet the flop? alot of the time the original bettor will raise you and leave you in this position.

Even if he just calls, where does that leave you?
C/R the flop

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I think you did so well up until this sentence. A flop cr will turn our hand into a bluff, representing a lot more strength then we actually have.

CC flop, lead non-broadway turn/CF broadway.

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its hardly a bluff, but I take your point....I guess because 99% of the time I wouldnt be there, but HAD I called this is the line I would take

[Stan Loh]

Still fold PF if on the big blind? (Let's assume full stack)

[kolotoure]

3bet>>>>>>>Call>Fold

[TheRenaissance]

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Still fold PF if on the big blind? (Let's assume full stack)

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Hero IS big blind.
With a full stack I guess it gets better.

Some thoughts:
When button raises we normally dont have much implied odds, as it is often a steal. So when we do hit the flop big, we wont win much. We could also easily be dominated (JT,QT,KT,AT comes to mind). If you decide to play this hand a 3bet is better, as you can end the hand right there (no one has shown much strength), or get the hand HU and take it down with a cbet most of the time. Just dont overdo it.

We have one thing going for us when we just call however:
Good relative position.
IF we hit the flop big, we can check to the pfr, hope he bets, hope the sb comes along, trap some dead money and take it from there. However I'd much rather be up against an utg raiser (bigger implied odds), and have a smaller sc like 78 or 67. These are less likely to be dominated.