The petition to PokerStars to raise the min buy-in

[1p0kerboy]

This thread is not to debate the shortstacking topic. Please do so somewhere else. This thread is so that we can get an accurate count/idea of how many players want the min buy-in raised.

Many of us believe that no-limit is a game of implied odds and that having shortstackers at the table completely changes the table dynamics and ruins the game.

If you would like to see the minimum buy-in raised, please respond to this thread.

[ZBTHorton]

I did some consulting work for PokerStars about a year ago, and this was one of the major things I asked them to change. At the time, I did get them to agree to change the "default" buyin from 40bb's to 60bb's inside of the NL games. (yes, if you noticed, this was me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]). I obviously tried to get them to default the games to 100bb's, but considered the small raise a small victory.

At the time, I asked if the opportunity for further raises would be possible, and was told that they would re-evaluate how the games reacted to the change and go forward.

As of this morning, I sent a few e-mails out to the guys who I worked on this with, and will see what kind of information they might have as to the results. I'll be honest though, I'm not very optimistic. The concept of defaulting buyin to 100bb's has very few if any advantages for the site itself.

[1p0kerboy]

Z-

Thanks for replying.

I agree that making the default buy in 100BB would probably be a bad idea.

What I think should happen is the minimum buy-in should be raised to somewhere in the 30-40BB area.

Another option would be to run separarte "cap-games" like Full Tilt has. That way, those who want to play "preflop" poker would still have that option.

[1p0kerboy]

Now that I think about it, didn't FT raise their min buy-in sometime back?

[ZBTHorton]

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Now that I think about it, didn't FT raise their min buy-in sometime back?

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Yes.

But if you go bust, you can reload on that table for some insanely low number. Possibly 1bb.

[1p0kerboy]

Actually I stand corrected. You can still buy-in for 20BB at FT.

[jack frost]

I am in for rasing the min buy in for sure. Thx for starting this pokerboy

[APerfect10]

Default Buyin: 100 BB
Minimum Buyin: 40 BB

[terrellk11]

They're never going to default to 100bb . . . just won't happen.

However, I think they may and should raise the minimum to 40bb. I'm all for it.

From their standpoint, this only makes sense. With short-stackers only playing 5% of hands, and many of those being uncalled shoves, they are contributing very little rake compared to most "normal" players.

[augie_]

oh good, another shortstacking thread so the tards can whine. dont you realize these threads just make more people want to shortstack?