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Old 04-06-2007, 04:46 AM
pacman2k7 pacman2k7 is offline
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Default NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

Villain is a maniac (46/18/1) 125 hands,

He bets only 18% of his hands on flop, that's why I think I should have to fold this..

Any advice?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $40.40
CO: $21
hero: $26.85
SB: $25.65
BB: $31

Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $2.9</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.15, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $6.15</font>, hero ???
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

If these are the same numbers we always see here, the 18 means he bets 18% of his hands PREflop, that is an awfull lot of hands.
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

Are you confusing PRF with flop bets? I'd prob peel a street here.
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

Just fold...

18 in 46/18/1 says he is preflop raising % is 18.

Frontbettin in to a three better preflop is pretty strong imo.

**EDIT**
A maniac doenst have an AF of 1 imo. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

NO! His preflop raise is also 18% but I'm talking about his postflop play and his action on flop is 18% bet..
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:54 AM
Loc0Loc0 Loc0Loc0 is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

I don't have 20 stats in my PO [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

But certainly then you should fold.
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

If the guy is betting a worse hand, I think you can find a better spot to take his money. I don't like getting AI on a dry board, when you can't beat top pair. He might not even fold top pair to a raise. I think folding here is OK.
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

A fold is fine here, as someone else mentioned, his aggression factor isn't high enough to put him on a wide range here. You're probably beat.
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Old 04-06-2007, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

Total Hands: 126
Vol. Put $ In Pot: 46.03 % (58 times out of 126)
Vol. Put $ In From SB: 63.64 % (14 times out of 22)

Raised Pre-flop: 18.25% (23 times out of 126)
Limp/Call Reraise PF: 0.79 % (1 times out of 126)


Player Actions: Poss.Actions Raise % <font color="red"> Bet % </font> Call % Check % Fold % Factor*
Pre-flop: 138 16.67 0.00 34.06 2.90 46.38
Flop: 76 2.63 <font color="red">18.42</font> 17.11 3 8.16 23.68 1.23
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Old 04-06-2007, 05:45 AM
ciro bonano ciro bonano is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 JJ 3bet preflop, Q on flop and a bot pet...Whats my line?

I've never seen people use % bet on flop as a stat to base their play on, but it seems to be a good thing to do, or not?
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