Two interesting hands I have quesitons on

[Python49]

1) First hand I have 66 on the button

UTG who is sitting full stacked which is actually rare in these games limps.

I raise 66 on the button and make it $16, both the SB and UTG call.

Flop($52) 578r

SB checks, UTG fires out for half pot

Villain???

Some people I talked to said raise it and call a shove. Others said to just call.

During the actual hand I called.

Turn ($104) A

UTG checks and I ?????

2) 2nd hand I have AQs on the button and there are 4 limpers with also some posted blinds and extra money from people posting from skipping blinds. I make it $24 on button.

I get one caller in the SB who I have specific notes on that he calls lightly pre flop. He will call down lightly post flop. Also observed a hand where he 3 bet KK pre flop and when an A flopped he checked 3 streets. He is capable of floating as well.

Flop (~$60) J44r

UTG checks and I ?????

I ended up betting $45 here and he calls.

Turn (~$150) Q (no flush draw made)

Villain checks... I..???

I rationalized betting at the time because I thought he would call with a Jack and 55-TT. I also figured he would not give me credit for the Q and would think i'm firing it because its a good card to second barrel on since it's an over card.

Thoughts on these hands/streets appreciated.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think these are interesting hands and am curious to hear what people think.

[nutsflopper]

lol

[TheWorstPlayer]

I'm serious. I talked to OP about these hands privately and think they're interesting.

[ipokeder]

1) check

2) bet ~pot or ~3/4, whatever

[ipokeder]

btw i fold 1st hand on the flop like 50% of the time

[TheWorstPlayer]

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btw i fold 1st hand on the flop like 50% of the time

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why in heckk would you randomize your flop play here? or do you just mean that you fold it to 50% of opponents...? what would you do against an unkown (whom this guy is)?

[ipokeder]

against most players i'll fold the flop. sometimes against crappier/retarded/hyperpassive type players, or when i've got strange very aggressive dynamic vs an aggro player, i might call

i really really prefer folding though, it's too often you see a player come with 86 there or try to c/r with 78 or c/c the turn with 89 or whatever, and you really have no idea what to do at all and there's basically 0% you get paid off if you hit a straight

50% was just a random number i felt like throwing out because it makes me seem more intelligent

[nutsflopper]

Wow, I would think it's standard to call flop and check turn in 1 and valuetown 2, I'll try to think about it some more.

[Python49]

When you say valuetown in 2 you mean fire both turn and shove river correct? Also assuming you fold to check raise all in on turn?