$50+r AK v. minraise and reraise

[DDBeast]

Minraiser is 35/33 over 30 hands and appears to be cad. UTG+1 is mcst0002, a solid aggressive player.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t800 with t50 antes (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t13331)
UTG+1 (t51207)
Hero (t13895)
MP2 (t18735)
CO (t7300)
Button (t32263)
SB (t10464)
BB (t20718)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t1600</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t7200</font>, Hero ...

[Bond18]

I think your against TT/JJ basically always here. It looks like UTG+1 is trying to isolate and make a raise big enough that it puts him in, so i don't think hes KK/AA here very often at all because he won't make such a huge reraise.

Given the dead money in the pot, can we knowingly accept a race here? I'm a little busy to run the math, as well as a little incompetant.

[WellAdjusted06]

Agreed. We're racing and slightly behind here. I muck and wait for a better spot. 1) your read on UTG+1 puts real strength in his hand, what in his range are we beating?. 2) we've only got a drawing hand 3) there are still 5 players to act. I'm in the muck here but would re-shove if UTG+1 had folded.

[DiscipleAA]

Preety str8 forward fold IMO, calling isnt outta the ? because of the size of the bet from UTG+1 you can preety much guarantee that you are racing here and winning would be nice for your stack... I think even though you are short stacked you have a little time to wait for a better spot then a slight dog for all your chips, you just dont have any FE against this race.

[Cablelessray]

i guess fold without doing the math. if the added money from the first better is enough to make this even EV i might call

[lemming]

I guess I would fold...

Also taking into account the fact, that UTG might shove this raise if we call, and then we are nearly pot committed if UTG+1 calls/raises again... I don't like this spot, but that's just me...

[ZJ123]

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I guess I would fold...

Also taking into account the fact, that UTG might shove this raise if we call, and then we are nearly pot committed if UTG+1 calls/raises again... I don't like this spot, but that's just me...

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well, were NEVER just calling.

But hmm, i might shove, he knows the UTG player is short, i think its reallllly close.

[Cornell Fiji]

UTG raised and UTG+1 made less than a pot sized reraise.

I think you are dominated too often to make a play here, hoping that the overlay makes it marginally +EV

[registrar]

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Minraiser is 35/33 over 30 hands and appears to be cad. UTG+1 is mcst0002, a solid aggressive player.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t800 with t50 antes (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t13331)
UTG+1 (t51207)
Hero (t13895)
MP2 (t18735)
CO (t7300)
Button (t32263)
SB (t10464)
BB (t20718)

Preflop: Hero is in MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t1600</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t7200</font>, Hero ...

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I'm a bit surprised by the answers in this thread. I don't know what 'cad' means but given OR's stats and stack, and RR's stack, I don't see why we wouldn't push here with the overlay. We're getting called every time by RR but there's a lot of money in the pot and we're good against RR's range - it's not like he's encouraging OR or anyone behind to call/push.

[Cablelessray]

"cad" means he's an architect and uses AutoCAD all day... jkjk

i have no clue to be honest