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Old 04-03-2007, 10:23 PM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

He called about 75% of PF raises but I haven't seen him play a big pot yet.

Questions: 1. Do you bet turn and 2. If so, now what?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($186.71)
UTG ($71.63)
MP ($107.76)
CO ($47)
Hero ($101.40)
SB ($101.47)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB calls $4.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, SB calls $9, UTG folds.

Turn: ($34) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $50</font>, Hero ?
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

Yes, bet the turn.

Has he been stationy or aggro-tard monkey postflop? If he's just sorta loose and donkish the turn is an easy fold.

If he's going crazy I might shove.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

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If he's just sorta loose and donkish the turn is an easy fold.

If he's going crazy I might shove.

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This is what I have the most trouble with. I know he doesn't have KK or AA so in my mind QQ=AA for me. This turn min raise is scary but I have trouble folding here. And because of that I often call. And seriously 50% of the time I am beat with 2 pair etc but the other 50% I am way ahead.

And since I have no real reads on this guy besides the stats listed, I am lost.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

Bet the turn and shove now. The pot is over $110 and you have around $65 behind and he has $40 or so. Yes, you are behind to any set and 2-pair combo here, but you are getting more than 2:1 for the rest of your money (he is calling your shove here 100%) and given his range you are ahead more than that.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

I dunno, if I see a complete unknown with those stats, and I have no history with him, I'm inclined to believe him here.

Donks just don't typically check/min-raise the turn without something that beats AA (or QQ in our case).
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

i abhor spots like this...

shoving is pretty bad, but folding seems bad too

i call here and eval on river

btw isn't that flop bet a bit small?
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

Pot the flop.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

yea,
wut up with flop bet against fish?
pot for sure.

as for the turn,
I dunno, it's a rough spot against a player with fishy stats, but if you haven't really seen him get out of line aggro,
I think it's a spot where you can just toss it.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:51 AM
ninenine_zoe ninenine_zoe is offline
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Default Re: $100NL QQ vs 50/30 type player

bet closer to pot on the flop and get it in on the turn. rebuy if you loose [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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