Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Micro Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-02-2007, 01:27 PM
wikemang wikemang is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 648
Default 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

My first post, so here goes.

No reads, I've probably played less than 10 hands at the table. I'm sure I should have folded preflop without any idea of what he reraises me with preflop, but I called. Comments on flop action would be appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.10/$0.25 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
<font color="green">shAAAArk: $71.45</font>
meetwagon: $21.15
<font color="green">momusurox: $25</font>
Corb: $32.65
AnnMarshallPhD: $27.60
<font color="green">Hero: $24.65</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.35, 6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="red">shAAAArk raises to $3.25</font>, meetwagon folds, Hero calls $2.25

<font color="black">Flop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.75, 3 Players)
<font color="red">shAAAArk bets $4.20</font>

Hero?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-02-2007, 01:32 PM
AaronInJapan AaronInJapan is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 14
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

ugly spot that should of been avoided, def fold pf but as played im calling the flop and re-evaluating on the turn.

w/o any reads you can't call here pf profitably(assuming 100bbs effective as you have here), period.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-02-2007, 01:34 PM
RMLewis RMLewis is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 146
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

Against an unknown, it's not a good idea to get tangled in a potentially large pot with a mediocre holding.

Regarding your pf call, i think it's ok to do this against larger stacks, i'd fold if villain had less than you. Assuming villain is decent (seemed to build up a nice stack), you should assume his range of 3betting hands are all hands that have you beat.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-02-2007, 01:47 PM
wikemang wikemang is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 648
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

So with a hand like QJs am I looking to flop a combodraw, 2pair, or top pair to continue to the turn?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-02-2007, 01:53 PM
Vyse Vyse is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: not tipping
Posts: 4,218
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

I know shaaaark VERY well. He is INSANELY aggressive and will play back at you with anything. He constantly re-steals, and I thought it was just ME -- like he was a good player and was 3betting me light. But nope, he does it to everyone.

Because I know him, I'd re-pop this to 12.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-02-2007, 01:58 PM
wikemang wikemang is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 648
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

Hm, well, I thought about it at the time and ended up folding the flop. Seems very conservative, because what was I looking to flop? Certainly top pair+, and I got my wish. I feel like I really pissed away a few bucks by calling preflop. Oh well, live and learn.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-02-2007, 02:07 PM
Vyse Vyse is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: not tipping
Posts: 4,218
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

In the future, if shaaark raises from UTG, don't mess with him (he does have TAG stats). But from late position, 3bet him light, and don't be scared to 4bet him light either -- he can lay down a hand.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-02-2007, 02:15 PM
monkover monkover is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Munich
Posts: 1,634
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

Against the "normal" 25NL player I´d lay this down but after I read Vyse´s reply I´d def raise but this is very player dependant.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-02-2007, 02:21 PM
tufat23 tufat23 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: wafflecrushing your sister
Posts: 7,933
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

should fold pre.


at NL400, i'm all in
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-02-2007, 02:41 PM
James81 James81 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 272
Default Re: 25NL QJd TP in reraised pot

This play could easily made with hands like AK or a pair like AA to TT.

but I figure out that he could hold AK and do a combo of a semibluff and a blocking bet. You can also try a call bluff on the Turn but you have to fold if an A, K or J comes on later streets. But you have to recognize, that the pot with that weak kicker can be very big at later rounds!

I dont like a call, I don't like a reraise, the best alternative in my mind is folding. BEcause its your first hand and you don't need to put your money in a big pot without any information!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.