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Old 04-01-2007, 02:11 AM
Hotrod0823 Hotrod0823 is offline
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Default Satellite Collusion or am I way off base here?

This is a 500 FPP tourney to the Sunday Million on stars. Why I put myself through 4 hours of play to win my 500 FPPs back is beyond me but I think this hand played on the other table wasn't above board and my have effected the overall out come of the satellite.

There are 15 seats to the million with 17 players left. I was currently in 14th place but blinds are huge and stacks are short so play is push or fold for the most part. Shorties have been surviving and I wasn't confortable by any stretch.

It also just so happens that 3 of the players at the other table have the exact same avatar. Looks like some kind of blue sky. The SB and BB are 2 such players. Maybe I'm wrong here but when is this ever a fold for the SB?

Anyway here is the hand:

PokerStars Game #9192249981: Tournament #46154864, 500FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (2000/4000) - 2007/04/01 - 01:46:18 (ET)
Table '46154864 21' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: MilesMassey (49214 in chips)
Seat 2: pawrock46 (12109 in chips)
Seat 3: deadmoney (24632 in chips)
Seat 4: carlao16 (29500 in chips)
Seat 5: angry tomato (56006 in chips)
Seat 6: Devo511 (9552 in chips)
Seat 7: JCM22 (70154 in chips)
Seat 8: mitch ling (32841 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: herbdizzle (32045 in chips)
MilesMassey: posts the ante 200
pawrock46: posts the ante 200
deadmoney: posts the ante 200
carlao16: posts the ante 200
angry tomato: posts the ante 200
Devo511: posts the ante 200
JCM22: posts the ante 200
mitch ling: posts the ante 200
herbdizzle: posts the ante 200
angry tomato: posts small blind 2000
Devo511: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
JCM22: folds
mitch ling: folds
herbdizzle: folds
MilesMassey: folds
pawrock46: folds
deadmoney: folds
carlao16: folds
angry tomato is disconnected
angry tomato has timed out while disconnected
angry tomato: folds
angry tomato is sitting out
Devo511 collected 5800 from pot
Devo511: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5800 | Rake 0
Seat 1: MilesMassey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pawrock46 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: deadmoney folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: carlao16 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: angry tomato (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Devo511 (big blind) collected (5800)
Seat 7: JCM22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mitch ling folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: herbdizzle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 04-01-2007, 02:22 AM
grafyx grafyx is offline
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Default Re: Satellite Collusion or am I way off base here?

why wouldn't it be a std fold? sb has no obligation to knock someone out for you. def not collusion.
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Old 04-01-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Satellite Collusion or am I way off base here?

Ok, makes sense. Just looked strange to see a 55k stack give a shorty a walk for 5k more.

Struck me with the 3 exact same avatars too. Just dumb luck they are all the same and all together.
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:40 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: Satellite Collusion or am I way off base here?

I would probably fold anything but QQ+ in the SBs spot but I am by no means a satellite expert.

You should read the satellite threads in the anthology sticky atop the page.
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Old 04-01-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Satellite Collusion or am I way off base here?

Cornell I'm no expert by any stretch and proper satellite move is to fold most hands but in this case the SB was playing a lot of hands. A lot more than one probably should but then has a change of heart and gives the Shorty a walk.

Maybe he just disconnected and I read too much into it because of my own frustration with my satellite table.
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Old 04-01-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Satellite Collusion or am I way off base here?

I'm fairly certain that the blue sky avatar is just a standard AOL (or some other providers) avatar so I wouldn't read anything into that.
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: Satellite Collusion or am I way off base here?

while it is proper strategy to try to bust the short stack here, he can still fold if he wants to.
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Satellite Collusion or am I way off base here?

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while it is proper strategy to try to bust the short stack here, he can still fold if he wants to.

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You are 100% wrong about what you believe to be proper strategy.
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