($5.50) AKs flops a flush draw

[dpbuck]

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1375)
UTG+1 (t1255)
MP1 (t3920)
CO (t2365)
Button (t1240)
SB (t1910)
Hero (t1435)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t15, Hero checks

Flop: (t120) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets t30</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t210</font>, MP1 calls t90, Hero calls t90

Turn: (t780) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets t150</font>, MP1 calls t150, Hero calls t150

UTG+1 and MP1 are super-loose. I've had such horrible luck raising AK from the blinds, so I decided to limp, figuring I could get away cheap on a miss. Now I got myself stuck chasing. How badly did I mangle this?

[whyherro]

Raise it up preflop. With action on flop it seems kind of silly to risk a lot of chips chasing a flush when at least one person is representing trips of some sort, fold to flop action.

[tsearcher]

With so many people in the pot already, checking might be OK. The loose players will call any way and then the pot will be too big for a c-bet. Semibluffing on the flop won't do much good either since there's too much chance of being called. Unless villains are also hyper-aggressive, fold to the flop raise(s). If they are over aggressive, push on the first raise.

[Kevin8423]

Definitley go for 120 preflop.

As played I call the initial bet of 120 like you did because I don't want to get all in here, but after the raise to 210 theres a ton of money in this pot and I'm shoving over to push people out and build the pot up. You may be up against trip 8s because of the limp, but you still have the flush draw in that case.

[Snowplow]

I definitely would raise this preflop unless I had some reason not too (other than bad luck). I like your play post flop. UTG is definitely representing trips by the turn (although betting them weakly). I think calling MP1 on the flop is okay, because if he has trips you have implied odds and if he only has a pair you have 12-15 outs. You have to call all the bets after that because of pot odds. Maybe I'm wrong because of the danger of a re-raise that will push you out, but that is how I would probably play it.

[Kevin8423]

My thinking is that for 120 a call is ok for this draw, to call the additional bet you are not only further investing your stack you are also accepting the fact that there will most definitley be turn betting, so you might as well shove over to get the money in the pot for when your draw does hit.

I don't see how we can just call the additional raise for a turn card and then pay more than that on the turn to see the river.

[whyherro]

Is it just me or does a minbet and then a reraise by UTG just scream trips?

[AMT]

raise preflop, you can lead that flop often as well.

[IceMuncher]

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Definitley go for 120 preflop.

As played I call the initial bet of 120 like you did because I don't want to get all in here, but after the raise to 210 theres a ton of money in this pot and I'm shoving over to push people out and build the pot up. You may be up against trip 8s because of the limp, but you still have the flush draw in that case.

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I don't think we have enough FE for this play. They're telling you they have something, this isn't a meekly contested pot. That raise to 210 is giving you incredible odds to see the flush though.