4/180 : 99 responding to a raise and reraise

[Mingdu]

No one out of line ... a little loose as befitting a 4/180.

This spot always irritates me and I need a standard response I can be happy with

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1645)
UTG+1 (t1680)
MP1 (t1320)
MP2 (t3240)
MP3 (t3170)
CO (t1425)
Hero (t1590)
SB (t1570)
BB (t2530)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t200</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t400</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero ???</font>,

[arod18]

The min-raise would have me worried because I see tons of min-rasing big PPs and AK. Calling is no good because we can't really be sure what UTG1 is going to do.

I say fold.

[ItalianFX]

I think you made the right play.

[Sherman]

Well calling would be really bad IMO. Either push or fold. Without a read on the min-raiser, I would interpret it as strength and fold here. FWIW, JJ is probably a shove.

[black666]

fold. the min-raise UTG+1 seems strange enough but the re-raise from MP1 is a clear sign to get out of there (your stack ist not large enough to call for set value)

[paddymcg21]

I take it that the main reason we cant call here is that UTG could well shove this?? So say we were on the button and raised, sb re raised and bb called, we would be fine to call this?

[Sherman]

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I take it that the main reason we cant call here is that UTG could well shove this?? So say we were on the button and raised, sb re raised and bb called, we would be fine to call this?

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Nope. Maybe if it were heads-up we could call. But against to opponents, our 99 is not likely to be the best hand and too many overcards can come on the flop that we have to fold to. The only other reason to call is for set value, but we don't have enough implied odds to call (need somewhere around 10:1).

So reasons not to call: 1) No implied odds. 2) Our hand isn't strong enough to hold up unimproved against two villains' ranges.

[Fiksdal]

Readless I probably need QQ+ here to play after this increadibly obvious strenght shown to us by the two villains.

[Mingdu]

Yeah ... I folded ... shove QQ here though and maybe JJ with the right read. Like if I had seen these two in a BvB battle earlier or some trash in the chat box.

[Black Aces 518]

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Yeah ... I folded ... shove QQ here though and maybe JJ with the right read. Like if I had seen these two in a BvB battle earlier or some trash in the chat box.

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Yeah, or if they both only minraised any time that they raised, never 3x or 4x. Good fold.