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03-29-2007, 06:23 PM
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QTs river sucks
villan is very very looose and very active. he's pretty crazy. i saw him cold call a pfr with 74s, called a bet on the flop (which was 74K, called a bet on the turn (Q) and bet the river when checked to). his stats are like 60/20/infinity over this short session. I've seen him donk into the PFR with A high and call smallish raises only to hit an Ace on the turn. I've been trying to get in a few more pots with him.
Me and him played in one hand earlier. I raised PF with 99, he called. flop came 87T, he donked into me, I raised and he folded. whats your play here? Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Cash Game $1/$2 Blinds 6 Players Lego Poker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> SB: $219 <font color="black">BB: $218.15</font> <font color="green">UTG: $994.15</font> MP: $203.05 CO: $374.45 <font color="green">Hero (BTN): $197</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3, 6 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, SB folds, BB calls $2 <font color="black">Flop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($13, 3 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $2</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $18 <font color="black">Turn:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($53, 2 Players) UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $44</font>, UTG calls $44 <font color="black">River:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($141, 2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $130</font>, Hero ... 
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#3
03-29-2007, 06:27 PM
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Re: QTs river sucks
Ewww KcXc ftw? Is pf a standard call? Genuinely curious. Nevermind, he is mental. Pretty ugly spot, sounds like the type to peel the flop with KT/J. If he's very active I might close my eyes and call.
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#4
03-29-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: QTs river sucks
Rly looks like Kxcc. If one of those K's was a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I snap call. As is I dunno, I prolly call cos I have trouble folding anything and I can't see a call being terrible v described villain but a fold aint bad either. Sucky spot [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].
Paul
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#8
03-29-2007, 07:03 PM
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Re: QTs river sucks
I think you have to call the river given the opponent, though it is an ugly spot.
The place I would reevalute though is preflop. I don't normally call raises with QTs on the button, and I think it's a bad idea to loosen your calling standards just because villain is a donkey. You are playing for stacks each time you see a flop with a player like this, and I'd want to minimize the risk of domination since TPGK is usually the nuts against his range.
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#9
03-29-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: QTs river sucks
I'd call. It's hard to predict what these kind of maniacs are doing most of the time, even when they make unexpected huge bets. He might have a king but I think he's bluffing or making a bizarre value bet with an Ace at least 33% of the time.
How about this same situation if an Ace comes on the river? I'd be more likely to fold if the Ace paired on the river.
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#10
03-29-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: QTs river sucks
here are two hands i saw:
hand 1: villan is CO: Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Cash Game $1/$2 Blinds 5 Players Lego Poker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> <font color="black">Hero (SB): $229.95</font> BB: $213.25 UTG: $208.20 <font color="green">CO: $922.10</font> <font color="green">BTN: $428.45</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3, 5 Players) UTG folds, CO calls $2, <font color="red">BTN raises to $10</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $8 <font color="black">Flop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($23, 2 Players) CO checks, BTN checks <font color="black">Turn:</font> 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($23, 2 Players) CO checks, BTN checks <font color="black">River:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($23, 2 Players) <font color="red">CO bets $26</font>, BTN calls $26 CO had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Queens) and won (+$37) BTN had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and lost (-$36) Pot Size: $75 ($2 Rake) hand 2: villan is sb: Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Cash Game $1/$2 Blinds 6 Players Lego Poker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> <font color="green">SB: $884.10</font> BB: $124.75 UTG: $318 <font color="black">Hero (MP): $210.85</font> CO: $235.25 <font color="green">BTN: $223.20</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3, 6 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8</font>, SB calls $7, BB folds <font color="black">Flop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($18, 2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $12</font>, SB calls $12 <font color="black">Turn:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($42, 2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $26</font>, SB calls $26 <font color="black">River:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($94, 2 Players) SB checks, BTN checks BTN had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and won (+$45) SB had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and lost (-$46) Pot Size: $94 ($3 Rake)
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