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Old 03-29-2007, 12:29 PM
barney gumble barney gumble is offline
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Default need help in omaha h/l

anyone here specialists in omaha h/l? I need help to improve my game, because I am going to play in a 15/30 holdem / omaha 8 game tonight. I'm a ringer in holdem. I tend to be drawing to hands that seem to be good in omaha but are just dangerous. anyone wanna gimme some tips? or talk to me on aim, it is kicknowledge11.
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:32 PM
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Two things I would tell someone who doesnt know anything:

Don't even think about drawing to anything that isnt the straight up nizzles

If you hand doesnt have an A in it - dont play it - Just play tiiiight
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: need help in omaha h/l

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Two things I would tell someone who doesnt know anything:

Don't even think about drawing to anything that isnt the straight up nizzles

If you hand doesnt have an A in it - dont play it - Just play tiiiight

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so you're saying dont even bother playing a hand like Kqjt double suited in late position with several limpers?
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Old 03-29-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: need help in omaha h/l

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Two things I would tell someone who doesnt know anything:

Don't even think about drawing to anything that isnt the straight up nizzles

If you hand doesnt have an A in it - dont play it - Just play tiiiight

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so you're saying dont even bother playing a hand like Kqjt double suited in late position with several limpers?

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If you are a total noob then no just fold. You will make numerous desicions on the later streets that will kill you because of your lack of experience.
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Old 03-29-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: need help in omaha h/l

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anyone here specialists in omaha h/l? I need help to improve my game, because I am going to play in a 15/30 holdem / omaha 8 game tonight. I'm a ringer in holdem. I tend to be drawing to hands that seem to be good in omaha but are just dangerous. anyone wanna gimme some tips? or talk to me on aim, it is kicknowledge11.

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ABSOLUTE #1 ADVICE THAT MOST NEWBIES NEGLECT:

NEVER PLAY MIDDLE CONNECTORS, i.e. 4567, 89TJ, 3456, etc.. suited, doublesuited, regardless.

that is absolutely all you need to know.
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Old 03-29-2007, 01:19 PM
barney gumble barney gumble is offline
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Default Re: need help in omaha h/l

even 9 t q j? 89tj seems to be higher connectors rather than lower connectors
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: need help in omaha h/l

The main problem as i understand is that these middle connectors tend to make the nutstraight only on boards that qualify low hands, so you wont scoop very often. And drawing to straights for half the pot is usually suicidal.
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: need help in omaha h/l

KQJT ds is certainly playable, for anyone, from LP. I would recommend mucking QJT9 though because it needs middle cards too often to make the nuts.

My advice for someone coming from LHE is don't get married to your starting hands. Really evalute how well your hand has fit the flop.
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: need help in omaha h/l

Never draw to anything if the board is paired.

KQJT is marginally profitable BTW. It is an alright hand but you get it so seldom and its profit is relatively small, so playing it isn't essential for being a winning player.

The reason people are saying "don't play KQJT or QJT9" is because even if they are played perfectly, they don't turn a huge profit. Playing them badly will be a diasaster, though. It's probably better just not to distract yourself with those types of hands--leave those to the grinders who play 5k hands a week.

More beginner rules:

Never draw to anything if low is possible and you only have high potential (that's right, not even a nut flush draw).

Never play pocket pairs smaller than JJ unless accompanied by A2 or A3.

Pocket pairs 22-88 are just completely, absolutely worthless, and usually detract from the value of a starting hand.

Don't get into a reraising battle with a non-nut full house.




You probably won't be a hugely winning player playing this conservatively, but following these rules will make it much less likely you blow it completely during the O/8 orbits.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: need help in omaha h/l

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even 9 t q j? 89tj seems to be higher connectors rather than lower connectors

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yes, even those
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