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Old 03-27-2007, 02:00 PM
Ayodeji13 Ayodeji13 is offline
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Default Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

I have like 100bb to start the hand. Villain just came to table so I don't have too many reads. I've been playing pretty ABC thus far, just getting hit in the face w/the deck. (How I got my chips).

Full Tilt Poker Game #2078494202: $30,000 Guarantee (15559724), Table 23 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:24:29 ET - 2007/03/27
Seat 1: Ayodeji13 (10,030)

Seat 5: bluffmast234 (6,145)

26onTilt29 posts the small blind of 50
metropuppy posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Ayodeji13 [As Ks]

cheezycool folds
-bluffmast234 calls 100
johnlevel calls 100
--Ayodeji13 raises to 500
26onTilt29 folds
metropuppy folds
---bluffmast234 raises to 1,500
johnlevel folds
---Ayodeji13 raises to 10,030, and is all in
---bluffmast234 calls 4,645, and is all in

Is this standard. Or did I severly overplay AK. (Being results oriented, I feel like I overplayed my hand, but please let me know what i'm supposed to do). I'm not too familiar w/ being this deep, this early in a tournament, not even mentioning that this is short handed.

It's probably a no brainer, but some assistance w/this would greatly be appreciated.

Results: <font color="white">
Ayodeji13 shows [As Ks]
bluffmast234 shows [Ah Ad]
Uncalled bet of 3,885 returned to Ayodeji13
*** FLOP *** [2d 5c Kc]
*** TURN *** [2d 5c Kc] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [2d 5c Kc Qc] [7c]
Ayodeji13 shows a pair of Kings
bluffmast234 shows a pair of Aces
bluffmast234 wins the pot (12,540) with a pair of Aces
</font>
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:20 PM
ItalianFX ItalianFX is offline
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

I feel a limp-reraise usually signals a big hand, like AA. They probably feel like they are trapping, hoping someone comes over the top. When someone (you) does/did they come back and hope you put the rest of your chips in.

I wouldn't be surprised to see AA here.
I would have probably just folded AK after the reraise.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:21 PM
Lambofbob Lambofbob is offline
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

With that deep a stack that early on, I would tend to just call the reraise or even fold. You have position, there's no need to push the AK here. See a flop and see what happens, and go from there. No reason to risk half your giant stack early with AK. Unless you trip or hit a flush on the flop, most times you can just fold. It sounds like you're up against AA or KK.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Ayodeji13 Ayodeji13 is offline
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

Yeah, in hindsight, I think taking a flop is better, especially w/my stack size.

But if the flop comes K high, i'm supposed to double him up if he has AA most of the time barring any strong read though right?
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

you have no read, it's early, and if you lose you'll be very much alive. pretty hard to fold AK given all that
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

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Yeah, in hindsight, I think taking a flop is better, especially w/my stack size.

But if the flop comes K high, i'm supposed to double him up if he has AA most of the time barring any strong read though right?

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pot will be 3k and stacks will be 4500 on the flop. if you're gonna just play fit or fold, you're better off shoving it in preflop and seeing 5 cards rather than committing all those chips and folding 2/3 of the time. if an ace flops, you might not even get any action from 33 or 98s. i'd much rather fold than call, but i'm pretty torn between shoving adn folding

the more i think about it, the moer i think you should just fold. you're only getting 6-5, and you're pretty much never going to see AQ or a worse unpaired hand. and he has 60 bb which weights toward him having a good hand. i just let it go
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Old 03-27-2007, 03:19 PM
Ayodeji13 Ayodeji13 is offline
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

yeah.....i guess i gotta break that habit of overplaying AK/AQ

Appreciate the advice guys
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

I havent looked at the results yet, so, with that, in a 6max 109, this isnt always AA/KK. You will see 99+, AJ+ here as well. I've been reraised with as little as 44 in these spots too. That being said, with no read, I just call and see a flop most of the time here, but I dont mind the push either. This is a 50/50 call or push decision, sometimes pushing is correct, others is the call. Now let me look at the results.



Next time have AKcc and we dont worry about overplaying AKs.
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

unless you have been seen raising w trash here, i dont think you cannot credit villain for a real hand here. Thats a nice reraise thats asking for a call/push. With villains stack as it is, the worse thing I expect to see here is QQ.

AK works better in short stack poker. both you are deep. For me I think its b/w calling and folding. a push here I think is def overplaying your hand. You are always behind here (AQ does not do this).
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:45 PM
Ayodeji13 Ayodeji13 is offline
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Default Re: Deep stacked 6max situation w/ AKs on Full Tilt (30k guarantee)

Yeah, i'm pretty sure now that pushing was an overplay. He's never calling w/AQ which kills my expectation (i think?).

It's short-handed though, and my immediate odds are ~1:2 (~1000:2000)... So I'm thinking call, and i'll get the money in if i flop NFD, TPTK, or better?
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